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#1 2013-01-24 9:30am

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Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

**Update: I received confirmation, that the BLUE Signed Chain Tensioners are from the 90"s and they are signed by Leonard Von Giese.**

Is this part from the 90's and truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

I was sold this part with this description:   http://www.ebay.com/itm/VG-Chain-Tensio … &rt=nc

"One pair only of tensioners from the last, unreleased, old school production run mid 90's. Has no perforations in card stock and this batch has logo like the new gen items. Signed by Leonard on 8/9/12. These are from my 10yr olds personal vault.
Thanks!

Please see our other NEW VG items made rite down the street in Morgan Hill by Leonard himself, using the same CNC programs from the 90's, now with logos. Shipping will be combined. Thanks!"

I have been informed that the seller I bought it from may be this same banned seller:

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 4#p3697104

Please Give Me Your Thoughts!

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#2 2013-01-24 11:49am

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

One pair only of tensioners from the last, unreleased, old school production run mid 90's. Has no perforations in card stock and this batch has logo like the new gen items. Signed by Leonard on 8/9/12. These are from my 10yr olds personal vault.Thanks!

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#3 2013-01-24 11:56am

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

They look just like the ones that are being made now. Plus the fact that his signature is dated 2012 makes me think they`re brand new not NOS.


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#4 2013-01-24 12:22pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

Those are real 90s tensioners


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#5 2013-01-24 12:42pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

I thought these in the pic were the first batches of the new stuff.. He (VG) had the same ones in each color outside his office door when I visited his shop..

My trip to VG headquarters. cool

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=453192


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#6 2013-01-24 2:47pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

80sgenbmxer wrote:

Those are real 90s tensioners

How can you tell? Please enlighten us.


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#7 2013-01-24 3:44pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

those do look like the new batch of vg stuff


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#8 2013-01-24 3:46pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

Scraplord wrote:

80sgenbmxer wrote:

Those are real 90s tensioners

How can you tell? Please enlighten us.

Im thinking because they dont have the ano machined off the face. There was this design in 96 before they closed. If anyone would know it would be kcmobmx, hes owned every vg part known to man.

Bicyclegirl from ebay sells here under VGgirl, look it up in beta.

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#9 2013-01-24 4:24pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

11 negs.. wow.. I thought that guy 'seemed' legit...


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#10 2013-01-24 4:28pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

The ones pictured in the OP, seem right, but who knows.  Before VG went back to making the stuff again in full production, those were made first as prototype remakes; until someone complained they looked like the old ones.   Hense why the new ones have the milled face now.

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#11 2013-01-24 4:52pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

cdridesonly wrote:

The ones pictured in the OP, seem right, but who knows.  Before VG went back to making the stuff again in full production, those were made first as prototype remakes; until someone complained they looked like the old ones.   Hense why the new ones have the milled face now.

Makes sense also. I mean it is dated...


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#12 2013-01-24 6:40pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

This are some of my Vg parts, as you can see, the chain tensioners  are different than the blue ones


http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab144/80sgenbmxer/BD19EE22-8C12-4C9B-9205-4AF94EAA7B10-4913-00000344D8B7DEF1.jpg

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#13 2013-01-24 7:30pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

FRESH wrote:

I thought these in the pic were the first batches of the new stuff.. He (VG) had the same ones in each color outside his office door when I visited his shop..

My trip to VG headquarters. cool

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=453192

Great read...Thank You!


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#14 2013-01-24 7:32pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

80sgenbmxer wrote:

This are some of my Vg parts, as you can see, the chain tensioners  are different than the blue ones


http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab14 … B7DEF1.jpg

Interesting, I see the milled off face, like you say.


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#15 2013-01-25 8:39am

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

Maybe they were requested to be pulled of the line,before the last maching step.
They are cool either way,appreciate nice machine work when you see it.
Now if I can get Von to make some piecies for my AR ,that would be trick.
Afraid to ask though,alot of hate on the subject.


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#16 2013-01-25 8:43am

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

markanthony wrote:

Maybe they were requested to be pulled of the line,before the last maching step.
They are cool either way,appreciate nice machine work when you see it.
Now if I can get Von to make some piecies for my AR ,that would be trick.
Afraid to ask though,alot of hate on the subject.

Not really Mark. Leonard's a gun guy.


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#17 2013-01-29 9:16am

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

JC82 wrote:

Scraplord wrote:

80sgenbmxer wrote:

Those are real 90s tensioners

How can you tell? Please enlighten us.

Im thinking because they dont have the ano machined off the face. There was this design in 96 before they closed. If anyone would know it would be kcmobmx, hes owned every vg part known to man.

Bicyclegirl from ebay sells here under VGgirl, look it up in beta.

Just to clear this up, I am not bicyclegirl72 on e-bay, I am vgcomponents on e-bay. I am Leonard Von Giese's Niece and I am doing his online sales for him and some shows, races, etc... this summer. The website for VG is coming along! I am working on it! If you need anything VG just PM me! :-)

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#18 2013-01-29 1:20pm

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VGgirl wrote:

Just to clear this up, I am not bicyclegirl72 on e-bay, I am vgcomponents on e-bay. I am Leonard Von Giese's Niece and I am doing his online sales for him and some shows, races, etc... this summer. The website for VG is coming along! I am working on it! If you need anything VG just PM me! :-)

Tell LVG that he needs to make all of the new parts distinguishable from the old parts in some way. Unless he wants to end up like Bullseye. neutral
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=475473


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#19 2013-01-29 2:09pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

Scraplord wrote:

VGgirl wrote:

Just to clear this up, I am not bicyclegirl72 on e-bay, I am vgcomponents on e-bay. I am Leonard Von Giese's Niece and I am doing his online sales for him and some shows, races, etc... this summer. The website for VG is coming along! I am working on it! If you need anything VG just PM me! :-)

Tell LVG that he needs to make all of the new parts distinguishable from the old parts in some way. Unless he wants to end up like Bullseye. neutral
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=475473

Isnt that what hes doing by machining  the faces and adding the vg logo?


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#20 2013-01-29 2:37pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

the only thing i have seen that looks the same as the old stuff is the vg nuts


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#21 2013-01-29 2:56pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

JC82 wrote:

Isnt that what hes doing by machining  the faces and adding the vg logo?

Thats only on the chain tensioners. The sprockets, valve caps, brakes, and stems look exactly the same as the old ones. Even the packaging is the same.


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#22 2013-01-29 3:01pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

JC82 wrote:

Scraplord wrote:

VGgirl wrote:

Just to clear this up, I am not bicyclegirl72 on e-bay, I am vgcomponents on e-bay. I am Leonard Von Giese's Niece and I am doing his online sales for him and some shows, races, etc... this summer. The website for VG is coming along! I am working on it! If you need anything VG just PM me! :-)

Tell LVG that he needs to make all of the new parts distinguishable from the old parts in some way. Unless he wants to end up like Bullseye. neutral
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=475473

Isnt that what hes doing by machining  the faces and adding the vg logo?

I see that too.

So, so far so good.   Assuming there is actually demand for any of this stuff .

so the valve caps and stems and sprockets must have something to tell the difference?  The brakes have silver milled outs hole areas, I thought on the new ones?

Sprockets, many of the old ones were solid colored, but .. I dont know looking them up.

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#23 2013-01-29 5:12pm

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I received confirmation, that they are from the 90"s and they are signed by Leonard Von Giese.


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#24 2013-01-29 5:32pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

Scraplord wrote:

JC82 wrote:

Isnt that what hes doing by machining  the faces and adding the vg logo?

Thats only on the chain tensioners. The sprockets, valve caps, brakes, and stems look exactly the same as the old ones. Even the packaging is the same.

the sprocket are close but not the same. the bullet valve caps are not the same the new one are more of a hollowpoint now. they werent before. and i have yet to see any new brakes or stems


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#25 2013-01-29 6:19pm

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Re: Is this part truly Autographed by Leonard Von Giese?

The only item that looks very close to og is the double bolt seat clamp. Otherwise you can distinguish between all other parts if you actually know what your looking at.


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