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#1 2013-01-01 5:35am

lanceBurkhart
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older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

I was considering an old school bike (gt performer - i grew up in the 80s) but after doing some research a brand new bike will cost just as much and might be better for me (I am still undecided) and am doing research but had a few questions that I thought the community could help me with. And if this helps, I love the look of old school bikes but I also really like modern technology. I am 34, 5'11 and 160 pounds:

1. Is it a bad idea to buy a new bike then change some stuff to make it look/feel more old school? for instance, I really love the look of mags and would consider buying some as well as some other stuff

2. Why are the newer bikes sprockets small? I assume this is a weight thing from what I have read. Does this make the bike go slower though?

3. A lot of the newer bikes do not have gyros or front brakes. Why is this? This always seemed standard on the older bikes.

4. Is there anything that is a must on a new bike? From what I have read on here as long as its chrom-oly you are good to go.

5. Are there any new brands that old school guys like? Any I should avoid? I notice SE, Haro, Redline, Sunday, DK, GT, Eastern, and FIT across the forums. I would really like to stick to a brand I recognize from the 80s and is still around today.

6. What sizes are good for me? I guess this is preference? I assume anything 20-21 is normal?

Thanks!

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#2 2013-01-01 5:43am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

#1 Retro is cool..its the only way to mix old and new..
#2 Gear ratios are about the same just scaled down for weight and clearances...
#3 Fad.. Kids like barspins- brakeless nowadays..I have a few gyros on my darksiders...
#4 Yup Chro mo is the only way to go...
#5 S&M! or Fit
#6 What ya fancy!!
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#3 2013-01-01 6:49am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

Are you going to ride street, park or trail? Or are you just looking for something to cruise around the neighborhood?
First you need to decide what your going to use your bike for.
I agree completely with Jerry cool
Top tubes on new school are considerably longer and a better fit for your size. Somewhere in the range of 20-21" is probably best.
The threadless 1 1/8 integrated headsets are a much bettter design than old school.


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#4 2013-01-01 6:59am

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Hey Lance North Shore was a great movie:cool:


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#5 2013-01-01 7:01am

lanceBurkhart
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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

chakuech wrote:

Are you going to ride street, park or trail? Or are you just looking for something to cruise around the neighborhood?
First you need to decide what your going to use your bike for.

Thanks for the advice so far. Probably cruise around the neighborhood...maybe a little park/trail when my son get a bit older - so probably something that is ok at all would be great. I will not be on half pipes or the skate park. Too many injuries from that stuff in my teens and 20s and surfing is my main thing now anyway. Also, my budget is max $500-600. Definitely looking for a complete bike that I can then modify slowly.

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#6 2013-01-01 7:02am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

84master wrote:

Hey Lance North Shore was a great movie:cool:

Lol, yea one of my all time favs. Too bad I wasnt paying attention when i created my screen name and put a 'd' instead of a 't' on the end of my name lol.

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#7 2013-01-01 7:12am

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When I'm cruising with the kids I ride my old school stuff big_smile nostalgia! But if you want to RIDE the thing new school stuff is amazing. I am a made in America kinda guy so i have a few s&m's and standards. I'm with Jerry above though, retro might be the way to go. For your price range you can pick up a cool retro quad or similar... BTW I am also 5'11" and have kinda settled in on the 21" top tube if that helps.


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#8 2013-01-01 7:23am

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My advice is to check out the local bike shops. Im sure something will catch your eye in your price range. Fit bikes seem to be popular in my area and I really like mine. Definately not as nice as my S&M but to build a new school from the frame up is COSTLY!!! SE also has some really nice retro bikes out now. Search around a bit and try and test ride as many as you can. If your looking for a "rider" new school is the way to go. There are plenty of nice old school bikes on this site but I wonder how many are actually ridden on a regular basis.


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#9 2013-01-01 7:31am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

chakuech wrote:

My advice is to check out the local bike shops. Im sure something will catch your eye in your price range. Fit bikes seem to be popular in my area and I really like mine. Definately not as nice as my S&M but to build a new school from the frame up is COSTLY!!! SE also has some really nice retro bikes out now. Search around a bit and try and test ride as many as you can. If your looking for a "rider" new school is the way to go. There are plenty of nice old school bikes on this site but I wonder how many are actually ridden on a regular basis.

Thanks, yea i definitely need to check out my local shops. I know there are a bunch right around my house. I do want to ride on a regular basis which is why I figured I should probably get a new bike but I guess I am still figuring that all out.

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#10 2013-01-01 8:03am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

If you want something older but sort of like a newschool bike, go for 90's S&M. They have good geometry and if you decide to do some dirt/trails you wont have to  change a thing smile

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/45105#.UOMHy-Sul9Y
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/51493#.UOMIj-Sul9Y
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/25622#.UOMI_eSul9Y


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#11 2013-01-01 8:17am

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After you find a modern bike, I think you should find yourself an old school one to play around with.
lol


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#12 2013-01-01 8:22am

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PlanetBMX has a sale on right now. I would check out the SE bikes. The PK'S and Quadangle's are great bikes and are in your price range. I have an 09 PK looptail and I'm 5'7" and about 155lbs. And I have plenty of room the top tube  is 21.25. I also have a 24" SoCal Flyer that's excellent for cruising around the neighborhood.

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#13 2013-01-01 8:49am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

The Retro SE bikes are really nice riding, IMO.  I finally obtained one myself (2010 PK Ripper looptail) and it's really sweet. I've ridden a few other guy's retro Rippers and a Quadangle, and they're all nice.
A big thing I have found in my over-40 age now is the 24" bikes, which I hated BITD, are way more comfy to ride now!  A retro Floval Flyer is on my wish-list for this year. I rode a couple of 24" SE bikes recently and they were both stellar.

Definitely go out to some shops and try a few bikes.  Maybe find an old-school ride or swap meet event in your area and go meet some people, see what they're riding now. Most of those guys will probably be in your age range and can help point you in the right direction.


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#14 2013-01-01 9:54am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

Here is a good bike that is new school, a cruiser, retro, and within your budget.  I picked it up new for $300, put the Tuffs on it, and still under $450.  fun cruiser bike.
http://bmxmuseum.com/image/20121020_18.51.54_lg.jpg

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#15 2013-01-01 10:35am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

lanceBurkhard wrote:

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6. What sizes are good for me? I guess this is preference? I assume anything 20-21 is normal?

Thanks!

I agree with previous post, go for 24" wheels !  Almost everybody I know who took a long break from bmx, especially taller guys, feel like 20"s feel weirdly smaller than they remember. And it's not just the wheels. The front ends are lower because of compact fork design, integrated headsets and short steer tubes. So you'd need to basically run 10" tall bars to make the front end feel like a 1988 Haro Master did.

A 24" freestyle bike on the other hand will make you feel like a big kid again, instead of a gorilla on a circus bike.  Just IMO !


20", 22", 24", and 26" !

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#16 2013-01-01 10:40am

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I would like to add to the sentiments about the retro SE's. I've got a retro 2010 24" Quad that I built from frame up which has been a lot of fun to both ride and upgrade to my liking. The thing is very roomy and cruises like the Cadillac of bikes cool...and there's no mistaking the cool looks of a Quad cool


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#17 2013-01-01 6:09pm

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

Thanks for the tips. I do like the PK bikes. I checked out S&M but it seems like they are only custom and pretty $$$ unless I am missing something from their site? I really want a complete as my first bike...then maybe I will pick up a retro GT Performer like I had when I was a kid. I am going to check out some shops in my area and see what they have - at least that way I can try out some different sizes and such.

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#18 2013-01-01 7:02pm

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U can't go wrong with a Retro SE. They look and ride great for the $$$. I myself have a few. 20,24,26... they all ride great smile

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#19 2013-01-01 7:14pm

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

lanceBurkhard wrote:

Thanks for the tips. I do like the PK bikes. I checked out S&M but it seems like they are only custom and pretty $$$ unless I am missing something from their site? I really want a complete as my first bike...then maybe I will pick up a retro GT Performer like I had when I was a kid. I am going to check out some shops in my area and see what they have - at least that way I can try out some different sizes and such.

If a complete is what you're looking for,check out Sunday completes,they are the best value for the money.

Don't waste your money on that new GT crap.


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#20 2013-01-01 7:19pm

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

lanceBurkhart wrote:

84master wrote:

Hey Lance North Shore was a great movie:cool:

Lol, yea one of my all time favs. Too bad I wasnt paying attention when i created my screen name and put a 'd' instead of a 't' on the end of my name lol.

Fixed.


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#21 2013-01-02 5:24am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

spyker wrote:

Don't waste your money on that new GT crap.

Any other companies I shouldnt be looking at? What about DK?

Leatherman wrote:

lanceBurkhart wrote:

84master wrote:

Hey Lance North Shore was a great movie:cool:

Lol, yea one of my all time favs. Too bad I wasnt paying attention when i created my screen name and put a 'd' instead of a 't' on the end of my name lol.

Fixed.

Thanks!

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#22 2013-01-02 5:30am

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I got a 2010 Se Quadangle throwback bike. It rides friggin sweet, looks old school as heck, and EVERYONE wants it when they see it. Voiala....Both worlds smile


I got lots of stuff, what you need? lol

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#23 2013-01-02 6:40am

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The SE retro bikes are VERY sweet...!
And I have some good deals on them at PlanetBMX.com

Figure out if you want a 20", or a 24" first. 24's are a bit more comfortable to some guys.  Either way, it's cool that you are back into BMX!


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#24 2013-01-02 6:42am

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DK has become a walmart brand....Bike shops have slowly stopped carrying them and they are gonna destroy there name. Id stay away from them....


Id go with a SE Bikes for a nice retro like the PK ripper loop tail or a quad...They are the best out of the box retro bikes that are complete/

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#25 2013-01-02 6:44am

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Re: older guy->New bikes...lots of questions

Just to let you know.


You need to spend 500.00+ to get a full chromoly bike. Anything less is hi ten steal garbage these days! SE series of bikes are full chromo for the most part or alum. So your getting some value and style there.



Your looking to spend 600-800 bucks for a complete sunday bike

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