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#1 2012-12-16 8:36pm

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Chicagoland Downhill Track -- Is It Possible?

I had my fun racing M and U-inside-U tracks some years back, and although I may yet do it again, I honestly am intimidated by the idea of jumping doubles and other big things.  Knowing this leads me to a thought that I've had on my mind for some time now -- an old school SoCal-style downhill track that focuses less on technical jumps and rhythm sections, and more on simple launches and berms, and most of all -- SPEED.  I'm talking about tracks like Salinas, Saddleback, and others like the ones featured in Joe Kid on a Stingray and other docs about BMX in the early and mid 70s.  The Wilmot, WI course that was used for the Vans Triple Crown Series BITD would kill me, so I doubt that would work (at least for me).  I'd be looking to create something that's not so gnarly, but could still be coasted to a large extent.  I'm asking people from IL, WI, IN, MI, etc. to chime in on this one with their thoughts.  The more I think about it, the more I want to do it.  Can it be done?  If so, where would you suggest?


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#2 2012-12-16 8:37pm

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BTW, the input of anyone who ever raced those cool SoCal tracks BITD is welcome! cool

To mods/admins:  Since this isn'e specifically about racing, but rather about riding with the potential for racing, can we keep this in Catchall to ensure maximum visibility?

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#3 2012-12-18 4:00am

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#4 2012-12-18 4:57am

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Re: Chicagoland Downhill Track -- Is It Possible?

I think this is a great idea. This would be, with all of your concerns listed, the one type of track I would definitely get on. I am a little further over in Minnesota but where I am from hills are plenty. We have zero racing presence here and I would be very interested in this. Always wanted to race or have a track as a kid and often wonder why we don't have anything here. How long would the track be?


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#5 2012-12-18 9:39am

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Not that long ago, maybe a few months, someone posted a link with the layout of a bunch of old school tracks.  It showed a detailed view with the size of the straights, turns, and bumps.  I did a search but couldn't find the thread.  Maybe someone with better search fu can find the thread and post a link.


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#6 2012-12-18 11:15am

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old bmx dad wrote:

you lost me ..have some picks...

Ted, are you saying that you have pictures of some potential spots, or that I'm speaking another language?  tongue


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#7 2012-12-18 11:16am

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I think this is a great idea. This would be, with all of your concerns listed, the one type of track I would definitely get on. I am a little further over in Minnesota but where I am from hills are plenty. We have zero racing presence here and I would be very interested in this. Always wanted to race or have a track as a kid and often wonder why we don't have anything here. How long would the track be?

What part of MN are you in?


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#8 2012-12-18 11:34am

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I can take you to some trails if you want to scare yourself a little bit.

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#9 2012-12-18 11:55am

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I am around the Duluth area. We have a growing Mountain Bike presence here (although it has always been here). I can find a lot of single track and off the beaten path stuff. Just nothing for BMX racing. There are many tracks around the state, however. Up north, it seems like BMX would be a perfect stepping stone into mountain biking and we have a community that, I believe would support a track. I think the winters are the problem though! Plenty of little parks around too. We used to go out in the spring and bomb our local ski hill while it still had hard pack. Haven't done that for a couple years. The ski hills are finally, locally, opening up to mountain bikers with lots of fresh cut single track and some downhill as well. This idea, I think would fit excellent here!


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#10 2012-12-18 12:31pm

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The ROCK will be functional in early 2013. It's just over the border in Wisc, but will have all the goodies that you desire. BMX, Slopestyle and the only chairlift DH in the midwest.

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#11 2012-12-18 12:34pm

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pep wrote:

The ROCK will be functional in early 2013. It's just over the border in Wisc, but will have all the goodies that you desire. BMX, Slopestyle and the only chairlift DH in the midwest.

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#12 2012-12-18 2:47pm

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micahbmx wrote:

I can take you to some trails if you want to scare yourself a little bit.

yikeslol Well, that's the thing -- I don't wanna be scared!  Explaining the sort of medical bills and time off I might incur from a serious injury would not make my wife or employer happy at all.  My dirt skills ain't all that, but I do have a bit of BMX racing experience.  That's why I'm looking to find/create something that more mellow, yet challenging enough to let riders demonstrate some basic skills -- bike control, simpler jumps like rollers and step-ups and not necessarily doubles, berms.  Optimally enough space to have a gate (or something like a gate) of 3-8 riders.  Here's a clip from JKOAS; through 1:28 shows EXACTLY what I'm talking about:



I'm definitely interested in checking out The Rock and the area soulride is talking about.  Thanks for the input so far, guys!  BTW, where will The Rock be?

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#13 2012-12-18 4:11pm

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perront wrote:

micahbmx wrote:

I can take you to some trails if you want to scare yourself a little bit.

yikeslol Well, that's the thing -- I don't wanna be scared!  Explaining the sort of medical bills and time off I might incur from a serious injury would not make my wife or employer happy at all.  My dirt skills ain't all that, but I do have a bit of BMX racing experience.  That's why I'm looking to find/create something that more mellow, yet challenging enough to let riders demonstrate some basic skills -- bike control, simpler jumps like rollers and step-ups and not necessarily doubles, berms.  Optimally enough space to have a gate (or something like a gate) of 3-8 riders.  Here's a clip from JKOAS; through 1:28 shows EXACTLY what I'm talking about:



I'm definitely interested in checking out The Rock and the area soulride is talking about.  Thanks for the input so far, guys!  BTW, where will The Rock be?

"The Rock" as they are calling it, will be at the old Crystal Ridge Ski Hill In Franklin, a suburb of Milwaukee. Which also contained the Milwaukee BMX track.

The downhill couse will be more geared towards mountain biking, but I see no reason why you can't run a BMX bike. Not sure if there will be sanctioned racing, but I doubt it will be part of the ABA or USBMX.

The old BMX track has been leveled, and a new, national caliber track will be built. New school all the way with pro section and paved berms. Don't expect an OS style downhill track.

The guy that owns the property is spending big bucks to make this the go to place for winter sports, BMX, and mountain biking.  smile


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#14 2012-12-18 4:39pm

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lol  lol build it on the dump off of the bishop ford freeway


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#15 2012-12-18 4:43pm

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lol  lol build it on the dump off of the bishop ford freeway

lol You'd take your bike to work on a daily basis!


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#16 2012-12-18 4:50pm

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definately


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#17 2012-12-19 6:14am

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There is a place up the shore on Lake Superior called Lutsen Mountains that opened up their hills to Mountain Biking with lift service, and even gondola service over to another set of trails. Spirit Mountain in Duluth has some really rad trails that winds around and they are setting up some downhill stuff. Like I say, I need to research it a bit more as I have been out of it for a few years. I am not sure if they still do the lift service at Lutsen but I could research it a bit. It was really a big mountain feel and adrenaline replaced blood for most of the day! If you are ever interested in riding out here I can compile a good list of spots to ride. Back in the day we rode a lot of 4-wheeler trails out into the middle of nowhere and found a lot of cool downhills that way too. Not sure what is grown in anymore. I will have to explore this spring. That video is exactly what I would want to do.
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#18 2012-12-19 6:59am

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bird wrote:

lol  lol build it on the dump off of the bishop ford freeway

hell ya...


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#19 2012-12-19 7:07am

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Sounds great! cool


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#20 2012-12-19 7:42am

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Cable is GOOOOOOOD riding. It's a haul, but I've done a weekender and had 2 days of gnarly fast fire roads and of course the Cheq Kettles.  Good times.

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#21 2012-12-19 10:28am

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Heck yeah perront! I would load up the truck, take a flight, hop a train whatever, to ride an old school downhill track. big_smilebig_smilebig_smile

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#22 2012-12-19 11:10am

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See, this is what I'm talking about -- developing interest in something cool that we all can relate to and possibly get involved in.  As far as I'm concerned, I am making it my business to make this happen, and any help will be MUCH appreciated!


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#23 2012-12-20 6:32am

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It's always a matter of resources and time. I hope to acquire both some day that will also include a few solid, passionate minds that can bring a feasible solution in creating a positive bmx environment in our area. I would jump at an opportunity to create something for youth involvement, especially this!


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#24 2012-12-20 11:03am

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soulride wrote:

It's always a matter of resources and time. I hope to acquire both some day that will also include a few solid, passionate minds that can bring a feasible solution in creating a positive bmx environment in our area. I would jump at an opportunity to create something for youth involvement, especially this!

Who said anything about youth involvement?!  This is for us old guys! lol  J/K I'm with you 110%!


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#25 2012-12-20 11:31am

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lollol
It won't be all about the kids. There will be perks for the old guys like pre-mixed metamucil and nap areas!


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