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Also, please note on photo #1 that the "clear shalack" overcoat is present over the lightning bolts, just like on many of the early examples that have been sold on museum, here is the list of all Elina seats sold to browse if you are so inclined !

http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/search?q=& … amp;sold=1

Check out the third one down :

http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/75397

Last edited by vettefan (2012-12-12 6:51pm)

So, here is the history on this seat. This is the seat I bought in 1979 for my GJS. I'm the only owner. I applied the JT rub on myself, so, I know this is the seat I started with all those years ago. It is NOT stamped Elina, but, is stamped 5 78 A.

I'm not at home to look at my early seat. But I have a few of the bolt seats and yours looks legit. I have to go home and compare to be positive but I don't see a problem.

A couple black seats dated 82




this is what all the 82 and later seats I have look like. Your front mount system was on several seats I owned that were dated 80 and earlier. I think its just a variation with seats. All the pics on ebay of those fake Malaysia seats never had that kind of rail mount.
Looks legit to me!

Last edited by nikbsnjk (2013-03-06 6:28pm)

HULK wrote:

Perfect so now we know that the early Elinas came unstamped but wat gets me is the unstamped ones I see around dont have holes on the top but this one does ? We're the Elina is in gold on the sides u can tell that Elina is stamped in the plastic and filled in gold so its def stamped on the sides. The lighting bolt is def screened on as it cannot peel off like a decal!! Tricky one vett hopefully some1 can chime in with evidence that this is a real Elina seat. I don't see why any1 would go to all this trouble with the design and stampings and not put Elina stamped as well underneath ?? Doesn't make sense

The reason the "Elina" stamping is missing underneath as well as the tahei logo and difference in the date code area is that these were being produced for elina by another company prior to 1980. Think about what was actually going on in 1978, bmx was in its infancy yet. By the time BMX and Elina (as well as every other bmx part source manufacturer) was taking off in 1980 and forward the demand was high and they started molding there own seats, more than likely in their own manufacturing facility by the thousands, thus the change in the molding underneath and the cheaper rail system. I am betting this is one of the very first drilled lightning bolt seats produced, lets give it a few days and see what turns up.

This seat came on a complete I bought not to long ago.   It's in decent shape.  I myself was confused with it.  This could be a great thread. 

i called rod. He still has original seat he bought back in  78. hes gonna get some pics up as well.

edit, he has 3 of them

Last edited by psycho (2012-12-12 7:21pm)

^^^^^ nice then well know for sure.
The Elina seat mystery hopefully will become clear to all of us. I highly doubt some1 will go to all the trouble with the other details on vetts seat and not put an Elina stamp if it were remade. They went to the trouble of stamping Elina Bmx in the actual plastic but yet no Elina stamp underneath which we now know that per 1980 Elina seats weren't stamped but what's got me is the HOLES ???? Very strange

Craig Im paggin thru my mags. This is gonna cost you a fajita plate and a whole lotta beers.

HULK wrote:

All the per 1980 visions without stamps I can find have no holes in the top.

I do concur here Hulk, I have yet to see a hole punched lightning bolt seat prior to 1980 yet, I am hoping somebody else can post an example, even if a true survivor to solve this mystery.

i have a couple pre 80's elina seats too and none of them have lightning bolts or the holes like the one posted.

Yes I can make out an M BUT HAS A HOLE THRU IT