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Just got this email..I realize it is on ebay, not here, but thought everyone should know. GAry

We(Bullseye Cycle)Need your assistance immediately.

We discovered some COUNTERFEIT HUBS being sold on ebay from 3 different sellers. All three know

they are selling fakes and we suspect they were made in Riverside California by a machine shop there.

We were notified from an informant that works for us in California of the guilty parties intentions and have started

the federal law suit regarding the Trademark and product infringement(s)

The 3 sellers are:

MRIVAS 12
562bikeman- Looks like he is the ring leader, has the most and supplies all other sellers.
marissa123-2012
I need your help in notifying the BMX forumns and community on this COUNTERFEITING ring. They are blatantly stealing from Bullseye Cycle and are stealing sales from you(Calvin) with FAKE,COUNTERFEIT,KNOCK OFF inferior product. Not only is this a libility for Bullseye Cycle LLC but it steals money from us in the process of infringement. We will prosecute.

The only 3 authorized sellers of legitimate BULLSEYE hubs besides us are:
Calvin Wykcoff
Planet BMX
Brad Turner(OneRAD-on ebay)
California BMX warehouse had some hubs but is now sold out.

I have notified/reported the authorities on Ebay and in California and am having private investigations started
on the people involved so we can see the scale and find the source. We plan to obtain and legally document
and destroy the counterfeit items by a third party company.

Please notify the forums about the counterfiet hubs that were sold between 11/4/2012 thru TODAY. There is a set
listed right now that is FAKE. They are Polished and have a blurry picture. The bids are at $122.

Thanks
Christian

dpercival · 2012-12-03 1:04am

WOW, thanks for posting!

Johnnny · 2012-12-03 1:20am

Wow is right. Crazy news. Thanks for the heads up Gary

cwbmx1 · 2012-12-03 2:17am

If you purchased any Bullseye hubs or wheelsets from these sellers in November, 2012, MRIVAS 12
562bikeman, marissa123-2012, you should start a FAKE PRODUCT refund process immediately,
through ebay, or Paypal if you purchased hubs outside of ebay.

Keep the hubs for the third party company, to be announced.

Thanks,
Calvin Wyckoff
4253calvinw on ebay

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Scraplord · 2012-12-03 2:18am

How can we identify the fake ones from the real ones?

cwbmx1 · 2012-12-03 2:21am

Scraplord wrote:
How can we identify the fake ones from the real ones?

I have sent a request to Bullseye to find out how to recognize the fakes.

vintage chromoly · 2012-12-03 2:48am

i suppose bullseye wants to be the only one selling hubs misrepresented as "nos" .

IRONIC!

Scraplord · 2012-12-03 3:22am

vintage chromoly wrote:
i suppose bullseye wants to be the only one selling hubs misrepresented as "nos" .

IRONIC!

MasterBri · 2012-12-03 3:29am

Can we assume that the fraudulence of the alleged ring leader is limited to these hubs? I bought items from this person in October, a seat and a crankset

vintage chromoly · 2012-12-03 4:41am

MasterBri wrote:
Can we assume that the fraudulence of the alleged ring leader is limited to these hubs? I bought items from this person in October, a seat and a crankset

If you bought a "bullseye" crankset you can be 100% sure it's phony!

All this recently "found in the back room on a shelf" bullseye gear is bogus.

I am the owl... · 2012-12-03 4:43am

vintage chromoly wrote:
i suppose bullseye wants to be the only one selling hubs misrepresented as "nos" .

IRONIC!

Absolutely

Capn_Crunch · 2012-12-03 4:44am

vintage chromoly wrote:
MasterBri wrote:
Can we assume that the fraudulence of the alleged ring leader is limited to these hubs? I bought items from this person in October, a seat and a crankset
If you bought a "bullseye" crankset you can be 100% sure it's phony!

All this recently "found in the back room on a shelf" bullseye gear is bogus.

I recently saw 2 pairs of NOS Bullseye cranks at a LBS. One was for a mini. I know they're original from BITD but the owner knows I only want them to resell so he's not pressed to sell to me. Personally, I think they're hideous...

Seems like an awful lot of work for such a small profit return. Not that I'm denying Bullseye's claims but proof would go a long way before people are crucified. We've all seen many cases where someone's wrongly accused... Remember, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty.

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cwbmx1 · 2012-12-03 5:13am

I would say if the sellers were not doing wrong, they would not have cancelled there listings and bids.

vintage chromoly · 2012-12-03 5:15am

Capn_Crunch wrote:
vintage chromoly wrote:
MasterBri wrote:
Can we assume that the fraudulence of the alleged ring leader is limited to these hubs? I bought items from this person in October, a seat and a crankset
If you bought a "bullseye" crankset you can be 100% sure it's phony!

All this recently "found in the back room on a shelf" bullseye gear is bogus.
I recently saw 2 pairs of NOS Bullseye cranks at a LBS. One was for a mini. I know they're original from BITD but the owner knows I only want them to resell so he's not pressed to sell to me. Personally, I think they're hideous...

Seems like an awful lot of work for such a small profit return. Not that I'm denying Bullseye's claims but proof would go a long way before people are crucified. We've all seen many cases where someone's wrongly accused... Remember, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty.

Do some research!

This has been going on for years.

erdalicious · 2012-12-03 5:33am

GREAT INFO GARY

Thanks,

spread the word

Gto19 · 2012-12-03 7:52am

Please notify the forums about the counterfiet hubs that were sold between 11/4/2012 thru TODAY. There is a set
listed right now that is FAKE. They are Polished and have a blurry picture. The bids are at $122.

Can someone post a link ?or is is the ad already down^^

cwbmx1 · 2012-12-03 8:04am

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=473616

Last edited by cwbmx1 (2012-12-03 8:08am)

mongoosefreak · 2012-12-03 8:24am

Bullseye hubs,and cranks are pretty sweet stuff. It is sad to see that people would make knock offs and try to sell them as legit just for a few $'s...

cwbmx1 · 2012-12-03 8:41am

http://www.ebay.com/csc/562bikeman/m.ht … amp;_rdc=1

Over $2500.00 listed
This is just one of the sellers, the last 15 days, and most Bullseye hub listings were cancelled by the seller.
Possibly sold outside of ebay.

MasterBri · 2012-12-03 9:03am

Capn_Crunch wrote:
vintage chromoly wrote:
MasterBri wrote:
Can we assume that the fraudulence of the alleged ring leader is limited to these hubs? I bought items from this person in October, a seat and a crankset
If you bought a "bullseye" crankset you can be 100% sure it's phony!

All this recently "found in the back room on a shelf" bullseye gear is bogus.
I recently saw 2 pairs of NOS Bullseye cranks at a LBS. One was for a mini. I know they're original from BITD but the owner knows I only want them to resell so he's not pressed to sell to me. Personally, I think they're hideous...

Seems like an awful lot of work for such a small profit return. Not that I'm denying Bullseye's claims but proof would go a long way before people are crucified. We've all seen many cases where someone's wrongly accused... Remember, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty.

apparently you haven't done any time! This statement is quite backwards actually, just ask George Zimmerman..

alainmagana · 2012-12-03 9:06am

papalone13 · 2012-12-03 10:22am

very interesting. i wonder how they figured it out, i was staring at them for 5 minutes and couldnt tell.

on another note, what time period were these hubs used until? did they see the 90's?

hollywood23 · 2012-12-03 11:27am

cwbmx1 wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/csc/562bikeman/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_ipg=50&_since=15&_sop=13&_rdc=1

Over $2500.00 listed
This is just one of the sellers, the last 15 days, and most Bullseye hub listings were cancelled by the seller.
Possibly sold outside of ebay.

Damn i bought alot of Boss parts from him on ebay. Good guy to deal with. He has alot of nice parts. He will sell out side of EBAY for sure at a low ball price..

Coco · 2012-12-03 11:57am

Don't be so hasty to file a fake claim.

Maybe the fakes will actually work and not have loose axle issues like the last 3 pairs of legit Bullseye's I've owned.

I will only use Phil Wood now and have nary an issue.

vintage chromoly wrote:
i suppose bullseye wants to be the only one selling hubs misrepresented as "nos" .

IRONIC!

No kidding.

After dealing with Bullseye lately and all the BS I was fed, I would not cross the street for for a free pair of their hubs.

Last edited by Coco (2012-12-03 11:58am)

I am the owl... · 2012-12-03 12:32pm

Coco wrote:
Don't be so hasty to file a fake claim.

Maybe the fakes will actually work and not have loose axle issues like the last 3 pairs of legit Bullseye's I've owned.

I will only use Phil Wood now and have nary an issue.

vintage chromoly wrote:
i suppose bullseye wants to be the only one selling hubs misrepresented as "nos" .

IRONIC!
No kidding.

After dealing with Bullseye lately and all the BS I was fed, I would not cross the street for for a free pair of their hubs.

Or anything else for that matter...

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