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#1 2012-12-07 10:15pm

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New school bikes for old school guys...

So being out of the game for so long it has been easy to lose track what's hot and what's not out there.  Schwinn and Mongoose sell at Wally World now and many of the companies that produced quality bikes back in the day have long since shut down.

So, some advice from you new school riders out there.  What are some comparable bikes that have the traits from BITD?  Essentially if I am going to start shopping for a 2013 bike, but have 80's tastes, what are some of my options?

Best "bang for the buck"? - what's not outrageous in price and gets the job done?

Money is no consideration? - if I got the cash, what's top of the line?

Riders choice? - what's are the popular thing(s) on the street right now? 

Astetics - I'm talking looks here.  Lot of matte black out there these days.  For me, nothing is prettier than a chromed out radberry pink 20 II.  What is eye catching?

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#2 2012-12-07 10:56pm

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Grab a beer if u like  and start with page 1 on
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#3 2012-12-07 11:10pm

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Grab a beer if u like  and start with page 1 on
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All New School Rides Are Black big_smile

I can't do it man.  It's the seats.  Is anything not slammed?  I just refuse to ride with my knees above my shoulders...

And we need some color...  That's it.  Starting my own bike company.


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#4 2012-12-07 11:10pm

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#5 2012-12-08 12:11am

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#6 2012-12-08 12:40am

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have you looked into SE?


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#7 2012-12-08 12:42am

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Re: New school bikes for old school guys...

The best argument I've heard from the new school guys about the slammed seat is, "then dont slam it", but THEN, the whole geometry argument starts. Bike is designed to have the low seat, raise the seat, geometry is off, so ride an old school, but old school sucks, blah blah blah.

Stick to what you like best, you can't go wrong.

Edit: I'm an old school'er through and through

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#8 2012-12-08 1:14am

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Get a late old school (990 mounts, gyro tabs etc.) equip it with all the best stuff from new, and you have the best of both worlds.  You can even run threadless stems with modern forks and 14mm slotted axles.


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#9 2012-12-08 1:26am

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Get a late old school (990 mounts, gyro tabs etc.) equip it with all the best stuff from new, and you have the best of both worlds.  You can even run threadless stems with modern forks and 14mm slotted axles.

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#10 2012-12-08 1:31am

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The best argument I've heard from the new school guys about the slammed seat is, "then dont slam it", but THEN, the whole geometry argument starts. Bike is designed to have the low seat, raise the seat, geometry is off, so ride an old school, but old school sucks, blah blah blah.

Stick to what you like best, you can't go wrong.

Edit: I'm an old school'er through and through

Will always stick to 80's.  I saw a new Haro earlier though and it caught my interest and got my wheels turning.  However, when I look at the new bikes geometry (like u mentioned) there just doesn't look to be a way to set it up to ride comfy for me.  Side note: I'm 6'4". 

So I thought I would get some input on new school stuff from the horses mouth so to speak.  So far nobody has really posted anything that sells me on anything.  I mean, I can build whatever.. I was looking for somebody to throw out some pros and cons of the new stuff on a complete bike or two or three.  I search and read through the museum all the time.  Just thought somebody might throw up some general info.

I will check out SE's though as somebody noted.  Just browsing around.  Haven't bought New 20" in 25 years, thought I would give one a try if I could find something that still had some old school zing to it with 25 years of development put into it.


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#11 2012-12-08 1:34am

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XJguy wrote:

Get a late old school (990 mounts, gyro tabs etc.) equip it with all the best stuff from new, and you have the best of both worlds.  You can even run threadless stems with modern forks and 14mm slotted axles.

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Not what I was looking for.  I can build whatever.  Looking for complete solid bike suggestions. 

Just wanted to get some dirt on new stuff as a few have caught my eye.


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#12 2012-12-08 1:36am

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NewMidMike wrote:

have you looked into SE?

I'll check them out.  I'm tall, so something with a nice long frame would be nice.  That is one of the things I liked about my predator.  Didn't even need laid back seat post.  Long top tube, high seat.

No matter what I ride I'm gonna look like a circus bear on a tricycle, but I want to at least be comfy and not whack my knees on the grips.


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#13 2012-12-08 1:57am

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Sounds like you need one of these... http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg306/tiggy1190/upperhominy2012060201245_blowup.jpg 24", nice, and tall. I'm a short dude, and it's huge to me. I commute to work on this thing 17mi comfortably.

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#14 2012-12-08 2:06am

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Sounds like you need one of these... http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg30 … blowup.jpg 24", nice, and tall. I'm a short dude, and it's huge to me. I commute to work on this thing 17mi comfortably.

I dig quadangles.  Have seen some sweet ones on here.  Love your 87 general RL.  Nice.


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#15 2012-12-08 2:08am

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tiggy1190 wrote:

Sounds like you need one of these... http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg30 … blowup.jpg 24", nice, and tall. I'm a short dude, and it's huge to me. I commute to work on this thing 17mi comfortably.

I dig quadangles.  Have seen some sweet ones on here.  Love your 87 general RL.  Nice.

cool Tall bars on a cruiser are the way to go IMO. Even at 5'8" it makes a huge difference. I rode this Quad before I owned it, and it had cruiser bars. I couldn't get the front pulled up, so I went with tall bars once I got it, and now it pulls with ease.

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#16 2012-12-08 2:39am

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SE cruisers for sure! They are light and strong comes with good parts looks old school.

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#17 2012-12-08 6:47am

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bailhard wrote:

The best argument I've heard from the new school guys about the slammed seat is, "then dont slam it", but THEN, the whole geometry argument starts. Bike is designed to have the low seat, raise the seat, geometry is off, so ride an old school, but old school sucks, blah blah blah.

Stick to what you like best, you can't go wrong.

Edit: I'm an old school'er through and through

We don't sit on the seats while racing anymore.  I don't think it's anything to do with the geometry other than the seat is in the way when its high.  I ride Standard's and really like the geometry.  Put a quick release clam on it so you can raise it after the track.

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#18 2012-12-08 8:32am

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Are you set on 20" rides? I'm 6'4 and picked up a 22" Holmes and a 24" Sunday Wave C, both with 22" top tubes so that I have some room. Both are posted in my bikes section. Or you could look into a Macneil Deuce Deuce, those are 22" toptube but still on 20" wheels. It won't come as a complete but will definitely be roomy enough for you. I just built one up this past week. It'll be my last shot at 20" bikes. If I don't like it, I'll stay with my Holmes and WaveC


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#19 2012-12-08 9:30am

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Are you set on 20" rides? I'm 6'4 and picked up a 22" Holmes and a 24" Sunday Wave C, both with 22" top tubes so that I have some room. Both are posted in my bikes section. Or you could look into a Macneil Deuce Deuce, those are 22" toptube but still on 20" wheels. It won't come as a complete but will definitely be roomy enough for you. I just built one up this past week. It'll be my last shot at 20" bikes. If I don't like it, I'll stay with my Holmes and WaveC

I sure am.  This all started out as a quest to refurbish my childhood bike.  Turns out I really missed riding and building them.  So here I am several bikes later (all 20's) and big as hell. 

That 22" top tube with 20" wheels sounds like a good deal.  I have a 95 mongoose with a 21" tube and it's nice and long. I believe that it's going to ride nice once complete.

Thanks for the info.


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#20 2012-12-08 9:33am

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SO I think I am going to check out SE's, Holmes and Sunday bikes.


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#21 2012-12-08 10:05am

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Its a fact old bikes suck and new ones dont, because you can get specific geo to suit your needs. The question is what exactly do you plan on doing? If you dont like the low seat get a taller stand over. Need more room from the bars longer tt or stem. Want an agile bike get a higher bb and short rear. Gonna ride dirt do the opposite. If your gonna just cruise the hood it dont matter what you get. This is my bike Im 6'2 the tt is 20.75. If you wanna know more I can give you every angle and length of the whole bike. It took me about 4 years to know exactly what I wanted in a bike. Thats bike geo, bar height, width and geo, stem length, fork offset and crank length. A lot of trial and error before I knew exactly what I wanted and this one is it.....Oh btw Ill be 44 in february cool


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#22 2012-12-08 10:19am

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Don't buy a complete. Just like back in " the good old days" buy a frame & fork and go from there. I think a cruiser would be more forgiving on ya since you've been away for a while. Big bars on cruisers seem to be " the new thing ". Personal preferance I guess.


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#23 2012-12-08 10:21am

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harlen wrote:

Its a fact old bikes suck and new ones dont, because you can get specific geo to suit your needs. The question is what exactly do you plan on doing? If you dont like the low seat get a taller stand over. Need more room from the bars longer tt or stem. Want an agile bike get a higher bb and short rear. Gonna ride dirt do the opposite. If your gonna just cruise the hood it dont matter what you get. This is my bike Im 6'2 the tt is 20.75. If you wanna know more I can give you every angle and length of the whole bike. It took me about 4 years to know exactly what I wanted in a bike. Thats bike geo, bar height, width and geo, stem length, fork offset and crank length. A lot of trial and error before I knew exactly what I wanted and this one is it.....Oh btw Ill be 44 in february cool


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Nice!  44!  I'm 37, so it appears I got some life left in me.  wink

Cool man.  Thanks for the info.  I am never probably going to hit a track.  Just like to be as comfy as I can when riding.  I love my predators.  Fit me great.  But there are so many bikes out there now that I know nothing about, I figured it might be a good idea to start looking into one.  If I can't find what I am looking for, I have 0 issues sticking with old school.  Just don't like to discount my options.

Thanks!


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#24 2012-12-08 10:34am

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Don't buy a complete. Just like back in " the good old days" buy a frame & fork and go from there. I think a cruiser would be more forgiving on ya since you've been away for a while. Big bars on cruisers seem to be " the new thing ". Personal preferance I guess.

I keep hearing about this being the "new" thing... I have been running tall bars for about 3 1/2 years, since early 09. http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=130247 This was my first go with them. My brother is a "BIG" boy, not tall, and he loved it. When he gave me the GL, I was hooked!


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#25 2012-12-08 1:02pm

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kcdirtbro54 wrote:

Are you set on 20" rides? I'm 6'4 and picked up a 22" Holmes and a 24" Sunday Wave C, both with 22" top tubes so that I have some room. Both are posted in my bikes section. Or you could look into a Macneil Deuce Deuce, those are 22" toptube but still on 20" wheels. It won't come as a complete but will definitely be roomy enough for you. I just built one up this past week. It'll be my last shot at 20" bikes. If I don't like it, I'll stay with my Holmes and WaveC

I looked at those McNeils... I like that frame (micro drop outs, built in clamp, removable brake mounts...)

Also, quandangles are REALLY starting to grow on me.  They were never something that i paid attention to back in the day and I have seen them left and right on this forum and they ALWAYS catch my eye.  At first they just looked weird to me.  But after seeing so many people turn them into sick rides, it's hard not to lean that how.  However, the MacNeil does have the 22" frame and 20" tires.  I dig that.  The Mongoose I have is 21" and it seems to be a fairly long tube.  Another inch would be good.


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