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#1 2012-11-21 9:44am

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1976 Redline Squareback

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1976 Redline Squareback

'76 Squareback

I've wanted a Squareback for a longtime - Wasn't sure if I'd ever get one.  I was sitting at home on a Saturday night and fortuitously stumbled upon a deal I couldn't pass up, here on the museum. 

The only changes I may make would be to add a Redline double clamp stem, if I can get my hands on one. Also, considering adding some red Motomags or Lesters.  Still on the fence.
Will get some better pictures in the spring.
Thanks for looking!


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#2 2012-11-21 9:59am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

I want one of these so bad.  Very nice.


"My Bikes" are mostly still in the project phase.  I will update and add photos as the builds progress.  Thanks.

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#3 2012-11-21 2:24pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Awesome big_smile


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#4 2012-11-21 2:51pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Yes some red Motomags, instead of thsose era correct perfect looking femcos.  Maybe a pair of Hutch pedals too.

On your two redline builds you said:

So when I saw this on the bay I knew I had to give it the makeover it deserved

Does that include trashing the original yucky tires for the cheesy gay-ass neon red 2012 tires?
And on your other Redline you said:

The most special possession of my life...(snip)
...I tried to use mostly old school parts that I purchased on Ebay and on the museum.  I also added some filler parts from porkchop. God bless that guy for making this hobby accessable and affordable to everyone who loves BMX

*slow clap*
Well done ol' boy.. well done.

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#5 2012-11-21 3:36pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Astrodamus wrote:

Yes some red Motomags, instead of thsose era correct perfect looking femcos.  Maybe a pair of Hutch pedals too.

On your two redline builds you said:

So when I saw this on the bay I knew I had to give it the makeover it deserved

Does that include trashing the original yucky tires for the cheesy gay-ass neon red 2012 tires?
And on your other Redline you said:

The most special possession of my life...(snip)
...I tried to use mostly old school parts that I purchased on Ebay and on the museum.  I also added some filler parts from porkchop. God bless that guy for making this hobby accessable and affordable to everyone who loves BMX

*slow clap*
Well done ol' boy.. well done.

OUCH!  I said on the fence, but probably won't.  The purpose of the first build was to build a replica of my first bike, which had "cheesy gay-ass red tires on it"  I loved the red tires when I was a kid!  I do still have all the original parts from all of the builds.  And I do think that Porkchop is a great resource that allows people to build bikes regardless of price point that fits their budget.

I can't believe that I just defended myself to some loser on a computer!!!

As for you, clearly you are a real classy guy to sit on a computer and bash someone on a holiday weekend.  If you don't like it then move on.  There are lots of people with lots of opinions on this website.  Go look at some bikes that you like and piss off!  You do realize that these are bicycles right?!  I bought them and built them to please myself and my little four year old son loves them!   I didn't do it for you!  I didn't realize I was in a flipping contest! So thanks for your opinion a-hole.  Guess what I will be leaving all of the bikes as is for now, so you didn't change my mind. 

I guess what I'm saying you opinionated a-hole is that I aim to NOT please!!!


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#6 2012-11-21 3:52pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

That bike is a perfect representation of what we rode back in the '70s, so why change it? I kinda get the Redline double-clamp stem, but the red (red!) Motomags would really take away from a fantastic looking rig.


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#7 2012-11-21 3:59pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

I said i'm probably not going to!


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#8 2012-11-21 4:02pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Just trying to talk you down from the ledge, my man.


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#9 2012-11-21 6:21pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

I think i had motomags on my Square BITD. Love to get it back.
Ashtabula neck i ok too
cranks etc.

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#10 2012-11-21 6:37pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Yeah there are 10 or 11 examples of squarebacks with motomags in the museum.

Astrodamus is just a disgruntled human being.  Probably short, bald, fat and lonely.  Poor fella.

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#11 2012-11-21 11:10pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

I would not use the museum as a barometer for proper builds, but point taken.

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#12 2012-11-22 5:19am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Don't post your bike on a collector website if you don't want the opinion of seasoned collectors! wink

I agree 100% with what astro said.

Porkchop is a chump and his parts are a joke to real vintage bmx collectors. lol


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#13 2012-11-22 5:23am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

cbr600kid wrote:

Yeah there are 10 or 11 examples of squarebacks with motomags in the museum.

Astrodamus is just a disgruntled human being.  Probably short, bald, fat and lonely.  Poor fella.

Well, if there are ten of them that obviously makes it alright!  LOL.  You just don't get it and probably never will.  That bike is perfect right now and is incredibly impressive and authentic.  Every dip-turd on here will tell u to do what u want because it is yours.  Well dude, that is the way that true collector's items get destroyed every day here on the Museum.  Newbs looking for approval from ANYONE.  You can't see yet that those types who are cheering your ignorance are the real bad-guys in BMX collecting.  They don't understand that there are only just so many of these bikes left and every time someone turns a clean survivor into a clown bike(red motomags) they destroy a very real piece of all of our shared history.

Listen to the guys telling you to leave it alone.  They are some of the most respected in this hobby.   

BTW, Porkchump is a deadly virus to this hobby.  Sounds like you may be infected.  If you are lucky, you will gain clarity before you bolt on any more of his fake, copied garbage.

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#14 2012-11-22 5:25am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Oh and, happy thanksgiving! big_smile


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Here - Not there....Hear - To perceive sound
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#15 2012-11-22 6:08am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

cbr600kid wrote:

Yeah there are 10 or 11 examples of squarebacks with motomags in the museum.

Astrodamus is just a disgruntled human being.  Probably short, bald, fat and lonely.  Poor fella.

Herein lies the problem. You can put motomags on a squareback, and yes people did run them, however, they were
1. Motomag I's (MM II's showed up around '78)
2. Silver, because colored motomags didn't show up until around 82. In the 81 catalogue it shows only two options, silver, and gold for the "Special Edition" model.

And yes, it is possible that somewhere on this planet, there was someone that still had their older brother's hand-me-down 76 squareback in 1982 and decided to strip their mongoose of its red MM II's and put them on the squareback, but is that the look you are going for? In 82 no one who was anyone was still riding a 70's Redline, especially not on the track. Everyone had already moved on to GT Hutch etc..

If you can overlook my snarky attitude, and just simply take the information and sleep on it, in a few years you might even thank me. I made plenty of hideous mistakes, but that was years ago and I learned quickly.

So many guys that are bursting on the scene are so busy blinging everything out, refinishing the old patina of early bikes, putting fake repro parts on everything, it is just frustrating to see this happen to our hobby that many of us have spent a decade trying to preserve the integrity of.

Honestly, how old are you? Were you into BMX in the 70's or is it just a 401k for you? Buy a 1990 freestyle bike if you want to disgrace something.

Just my opinion! Happy Thanksgiving! Give thanks for the learning process!

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#16 2012-11-22 7:00am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Astrodamus wrote:

cbr600kid wrote:

Yeah there are 10 or 11 examples of squarebacks with motomags in the museum.

Astrodamus is just a disgruntled human being.  Probably short, bald, fat and lonely.  Poor fella.

Herein lies the problem. You can put motomags on a squareback, and yes people did run them, however, they were
1. Motomag I's (MM II's showed up around '78)
2. Silver, because colored motomags didn't show up until around 82. In the 81 catalogue it shows only two options, silver, and gold for the "Special Edition" model.

And yes, it is possible that somewhere on this planet, there was someone that still had their older brother's hand-me-down 76 squareback in 1982 and decided to strip their mongoose of its red MM II's and put them on the squareback, but is that the look you are going for? In 82 no one who was anyone was still riding a 70's Redline, especially not on the track. Everyone had already moved on to GT Hutch etc..

If you can overlook my snarky attitude, and just simply take the information and sleep on it, in a few years you might even thank me. I made plenty of hideous mistakes, but that was years ago and I learned quickly.

So many guys that are bursting on the scene are so busy blinging everything out, refinishing the old patina of early bikes, putting fake repro parts on everything, it is just frustrating to see this happen to our hobby that many of us have spent a decade trying to preserve the integrity of.

Honestly, how old are you? Were you into BMX in the 70's or is it just a 401k for you? Buy a 1990 freestyle bike if you want to disgrace something.

Just my opinion! Happy Thanksgiving! Give thanks for the learning process!

Thanks for info on motomags.  I was looking for motomags I's; however, was unaware of the fact that they were only silver.  I know red is rare and apparently only on the II's.  I do understand era correct and for this bike would like to keep it that way. As i've said, I will probably leave wheels as they are.

To wife's dismay, I keep ALL original parts from all of the bikes!  Nothing is getting trashed or even sold.  It can all easily go back on the bikes.

I stand behind what I said about porkchop for filler parts like brake pads, grips, cables, and even tires.  I am not going to pay outrageous money for an old worn pair of grips or tires.  I view that as an opportunity cost.  I have lots of interests and hobbies beyond BMX.  And that money can be better used on other things that I care about. Sorry but I doubt if I will ever change my opinion on that.  And based on the fact that PC's still in business, lot's of people agree with me.

Despite my good looks and youthful appearance I am 42.  I know you looked at my story for the Red MX-II because you used quotes from it.  As I stated I got that bike Christmas of 78 or maybe 79.  I did race it at Joyce Park in Hamilton, Ohio. 

No, this hobby is not my 401(k) lol.    I have an actual 401(k), a self-directed IRA, and a ROTH, aside from rental properties, and non-retirement brokerage accounts.  Anyone who thinks this stuff will be worth much more in the future than what it is now, is a fool.  These bikes are in their heyday in terms of collectibles because of the sentiments of the aging guys who originally rode them.

At the end of the day, I do what I do, and you do what you do, and as long as we're both happy that's all that matters.  If you are going to waste your time and energy bashing someone because they are doing something you don't like, there are people out there doing things with far worse ramifications than building a fricking bike.  Why don't you go bitch someone out for committing a crime, or write letters and emails to our politicians who can't come up with a budget, and continue deficit spending. 

Now go eat some turkey! Gobble, Gobble.


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#17 2012-11-22 7:07am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Hey man dont let these guys get to you, its obvious your not selling off the OG parts to buy porkchop tires lol you, I, and they know that and most of the people that dont even care about the drama but just love to ride know that too! Bolt on whatever wheels you like and take that kid for a ride! Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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#18 2012-11-22 7:13am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

I don't use repop,but not everyone is balla and can afford correct parts,no one has the rights to call someone out on it,we do it cause we love we it,no matter who gets what from where
Vintage chromoly,you crap on the guy using repop in the auto world,cause mopar stuff don't fall out of the sky(FORD FOR LIFE)

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#19 2012-11-22 7:16am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

My coronet has no reproduction parts! It's a 37,000 mile car! wink

I have fords too.


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#20 2012-11-22 7:43am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

I'm not speaking about your car,which looks awesome!
Just saying in general.
You must hate these half cars shows that butcher the old school,repop parts aren't all that bad  cool


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#21 2012-11-22 9:08am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

66alfa_gtv wrote:

I would not use the museum as a barometer for proper builds, but point taken.

+1k


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#22 2012-11-22 10:11am

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#23 2012-11-22 11:44am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

cbr600kid wrote:

Astrodamus wrote:

cbr600kid wrote:

Yeah there are 10 or 11 examples of squarebacks with motomags in the museum.

Astrodamus is just a disgruntled human being.  Probably short, bald, fat and lonely.  Poor fella.

Herein lies the problem. You can put motomags on a squareback, and yes people did run them, however, they were
1. Motomag I's (MM II's showed up around '78)
2. Silver, because colored motomags didn't show up until around 82. In the 81 catalogue it shows only two options, silver, and gold for the "Special Edition" model.

And yes, it is possible that somewhere on this planet, there was someone that still had their older brother's hand-me-down 76 squareback in 1982 and decided to strip their mongoose of its red MM II's and put them on the squareback, but is that the look you are going for? In 82 no one who was anyone was still riding a 70's Redline, especially not on the track. Everyone had already moved on to GT Hutch etc..

If you can overlook my snarky attitude, and just simply take the information and sleep on it, in a few years you might even thank me. I made plenty of hideous mistakes, but that was years ago and I learned quickly.

So many guys that are bursting on the scene are so busy blinging everything out, refinishing the old patina of early bikes, putting fake repro parts on everything, it is just frustrating to see this happen to our hobby that many of us have spent a decade trying to preserve the integrity of.

Honestly, how old are you? Were you into BMX in the 70's or is it just a 401k for you? Buy a 1990 freestyle bike if you want to disgrace something.

Just my opinion! Happy Thanksgiving! Give thanks for the learning process!

Thanks for info on motomags.  I was looking for motomags I's; however, was unaware of the fact that they were only silver.  I know red is rare and apparently only on the II's.  I do understand era correct and for this bike would like to keep it that way. As i've said, I will probably leave wheels as they are.

To wife's dismay, I keep ALL original parts from all of the bikes!  Nothing is getting trashed or even sold.  It can all easily go back on the bikes.

I stand behind what I said about porkchop for filler parts like brake pads, grips, cables, and even tires.  I am not going to pay outrageous money for an old worn pair of grips or tires.  I view that as an opportunity cost.  I have lots of interests and hobbies beyond BMX.  And that money can be better used on other things that I care about. Sorry but I doubt if I will ever change my opinion on that.  And based on the fact that PC's still in business, lot's of people agree with me.

Despite my good looks and youthful appearance I am 42.  I know you looked at my story for the Red MX-II because you used quotes from it.  As I stated I got that bike Christmas of 78 or maybe 79.  I did race it at Joyce Park in Hamilton, Ohio. 

No, this hobby is not my 401(k) lol.    I have an actual 401(k), a self-directed IRA, and a ROTH, aside from rental properties, and non-retirement brokerage accounts.  Anyone who thinks this stuff will be worth much more in the future than what it is now, is a fool.  These bikes are in their heyday in terms of collectibles because of the sentiments of the aging guys who originally rode them.

At the end of the day, I do what I do, and you do what you do, and as long as we're both happy that's all that matters.  If you are going to waste your time and energy bashing someone because they are doing something you don't like, there are people out there doing things with far worse ramifications than building a fricking bike.  Why don't you go bitch someone out for committing a crime, or write letters and emails to our politicians who can't come up with a budget, and continue deficit spending. 

Now go eat some turkey! Gobble, Gobble.

Nice post and killer bike.

Yeah , dude has some valid points but I think he's really here just to be an ass. Read some of his other recent comments.


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#24 2012-11-22 11:47am

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

cbr600kid wrote:

Anyone who thinks this stuff will be worth much more in the future than what it is now, is a fool.  These bikes are in their heyday in terms of collectibles because of the sentiments of the aging guys who originally rode them.

Maybe it's not about monetary but historical value.

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#25 2012-11-22 12:02pm

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Re: 1976 Redline Squareback

Anyone who thinks this stuff will be worth much more in the future than what it is now, is a fool.

Disagree.
Look at antique motorcycles, advertising signs and toys. If the stuff is in original condition (even showing wear) it tends to hold value. If it is first gen pop culture, like 1970s BMX, it will retain value provided it has not been over-baked.
BMX is well beyond being a fad, meaning todays youth will take interest in the culture  and history of the sport. As a collector of this stuff, I feel a bit obligated to preserving history. In turn, it is far more enjoyable once you learn to appreciate original parts, even if they are not all shiny.
And, if we keep erasing the footprints of our sport, there will be little left to tell the story of how things really were. Yeah, it's your bike and you can do what you want, as the saying goes. But, if you truly love the era, eventually you might regret doing what you want.
I know I did. I re-plated an early Cook Bros because I did not like the few scratches. Today? I see those scratches as a part of the objects path from the hands of the original owner to me. That is pretty cool, and I managed to erase it (no pretty cool).
Most of us accept that some things are beyond saving. Restoring a bike too far gone is one thing. Eliminating the character of a well loved bike in order to out-bling the next dude at your local show? Really, is that a rewarding path to take?

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