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i agree,i like the bullseye pedals as well,for me the cages have to be beartrap style,im not big on platform pedals

squirrelsmith wrote:

i held a pair o hutch repops once and they sucked. no doubt about it nobody cared how they were going to function just make them look right and push them out the door

I have a newer pair of the JDB Hutch peds on a rider and they are fine and dandy. No issues here and I've had them on a bike for 10 months now.

I've never owned Hutch pedals new or old. I love my Crupi rounds, I have them on 2 of my bikes.

jp is better than both of them

efil4a8ks wrote:

squirrelsmith wrote:

jp is better than both of them

Was just gonna say something about jp pedals till you beat me to it.

JP and Crupi are almost exact so saying one is better than the other is odd to me.

I have JP squares and I love them. I've owned Crupi rounds and squares and thought them to be excellent. New Hutch peds are also excellent.

It's pretty hard to eff up machined aluminum and sealed bearings. Only drawback I can see is the chrome plated bodies on the Hutch pedals compared to polished bodies o the Crupis.

I love Both. The Crupi pedals and JP are true machined aluminum pedals, the Hutch are not; they are cast aluminum. The Beartrap pedals are the style my foot loves. I cant speak on the Bullseye pedals...like you, I have had a hard time finding a pair I like.

squirrelsmith wrote:

jp is better than crupi only because they held closer tolerances on their spindle lengths and bearing bore depths thus they are more consistantly free spinning without slop. plus their 17-4 heat treated stainless spindles are way cooler that crupi's 4130 black oxide coated ones

Got ya.

I agree, the SS spindles are cooler. My JP Squares are my most favourite pedals I own.

BirdDog wrote:

Let me add that BITD I ran only Hutch pedals and never had a single problem, cast or not and believe me, I put those things through HELL!

not saying they arent good enough. but they arent the best. wouldnt find a airplane part made like that. as irelavent as that is haha

robk131313 wrote:

BirdDog wrote:

Let me add that BITD I ran only Hutch pedals and never had a single problem, cast or not and believe me, I put those things through HELL!

I agree. Only problem I had with my Hutch pedals BITD was my shins

Mine bite me not while riding, (thank god) but always when I'm walking the bike into the garage. I sometimes get the back of my right calf with those damn meat-shredder cages and it is an instant blood fest.

BirdDog wrote:

robk131313 wrote:

BirdDog wrote:

Let me add that BITD I ran only Hutch pedals and never had a single problem, cast or not and believe me, I put those things through HELL!

I agree. Only problem I had with my Hutch pedals BITD was my shins

Tell me about it, take a look at my last bear attack:

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=270064

I remember that thread! I still have scars from when I was a kid.

I ran Suntour XC2 pedals back in the 80’s before saving up enough to buy my Hutch Pro pedals. When I would slip a pedal the pain from the XC2 was more intense due to the flat, blunt cages nailing my shins on a regular basis.  On the rare occasion I would slip my Hutch pedals I would always end up bleeding but with less pain.

As for quality having owned both original Hutch pedals and now two sets of the new Hutch pedals my opinion is that the set I purchased from JDB this past spring are virtually identical to my original 80’ set. The first new JDB set I got that were from the first 50 numbered boxes had a few bugs to work out, they did not spin great and the spindles were defective as is widely known now.

The bugs are worked out now.  My new set is awesome and right up there with my original set in both appearance and quality. One thing that would be an improvement for the Hutch pedals would be the use of a little taller cage to help them dig in a little better the way Crupi pedals do.

Crupi pedals are no longer being made but Hutch pedals are so the choice is obvious if you want a new set.  Crupi/JP pedals are built a little better being that they are machined from billet aluminum and not cast aluminum.

My original Hutch pedals had an issue with the cage screws coming loose but a drop of loctite fixed that. Hutch did not use lock washers on the original set I had so I took the washers off my new set to get the original look. If you do that you better loctite them.

I still prefer the look of the Hutch pedals any day. Do the Hutch pedals you will be glad you did.