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#1 2012-11-11 12:56pm

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brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

1985 UKAI rear rim.  I have been through the forums and have tried every trick---SOS pad, etc.  My question is, will they get any cleaner?  I'm having trouble seeing anymore progress at this point.  Is it just a case of the anno being stripped off the sides after 27 years???  Thoughts on this and/or suggestions.  Thanks.
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#2 2012-11-11 1:12pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

Shiney siding is the answer, you cant clean off missing anno wink


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#3 2012-11-11 1:17pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

oldschoolace wrote:

Shiney siding is the answer, you cant clean off missing anno wink

Yep, this is the way to go if you want them to look nice.


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#4 2012-11-11 1:19pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

butcherbobhayes wrote:

oldschoolace wrote:

Shiney siding is the answer, you cant clean off missing anno wink

Yep, this is the way to go if you want them to look nice.

aw man.  i was hoping you wouldn't say that.  the last pair of hoops i shiny sided took so long, but it was worth it.  The front hoop is perfect because the bike never had a front brake.  So, if i'm understanding you correctly, this is about as good as it will get unless i shiny side it?  then, if i shiny side this one, i've got to do the front also...  damn.

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#5 2012-11-11 1:21pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

Also, if I shiny side these rims, do you think they will still look good with the anno in the middle of the rim?  shiny side, anno middle...

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#6 2012-11-11 1:33pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

Should look great if you take your time with it. cool


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#7 2012-11-11 1:38pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

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Should look great if you take your time with it. cool

ok, so you think that I can get them cleaner than they are now with more time/scrubbing?

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#8 2012-11-11 1:59pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

houndog wrote:

Also, if I shiny side these rims, do you think they will still look good with the anno in the middle of the rim?  shiny side, anno middle...

Those rims were available from the factory with shiny sides. I think that they will look fine. Like oldschoolace said, if you take your time.

Here's mine that I did.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/butcherbobhayes/Quad%20Rebuild/015.jpg

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#9 2012-11-11 2:52pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

butcherbobhayes wrote:

houndog wrote:

Also, if I shiny side these rims, do you think they will still look good with the anno in the middle of the rim?  shiny side, anno middle...

Those rims were available from the factory with shiny sides. I think that they will look fine. Like oldschoolace said, if you take your time.

Here's mine that I did.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … ld/015.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … /005-1.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … ld/016.jpg

wow!  those do look great.  just to clarify, did you shiny side those or did you just clean them up real good?

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#10 2012-11-11 3:10pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

houndog wrote:

butcherbobhayes wrote:

houndog wrote:

Also, if I shiny side these rims, do you think they will still look good with the anno in the middle of the rim?  shiny side, anno middle...

Those rims were available from the factory with shiny sides. I think that they will look fine. Like oldschoolace said, if you take your time.

Here's mine that I did.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … ld/015.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … /005-1.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … ld/016.jpg

wow!  those do look great.  just to clarify, did you shiny side those or did you just clean them up real good?

I shiny sided them. They were in similar shape as the rims that you have. I sanded them and smoothed them out with a green Scotch Brite pad.

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#11 2012-11-11 3:53pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

butcherbobhayes wrote:

houndog wrote:

butcherbobhayes wrote:


Those rims were available from the factory with shiny sides. I think that they will look fine. Like oldschoolace said, if you take your time.

Here's mine that I did.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … ld/015.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … /005-1.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii29 … ld/016.jpg

wow!  those do look great.  just to clarify, did you shiny side those or did you just clean them up real good?

I shiny sided them. They were in similar shape as the rims that you have. I sanded them and smoothed them out with a green Scotch Brite pad.

ok thanks.  i suppose that's what I'll do then.

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#12 2012-11-11 6:44pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

You can sand off the anno with 120, 150, 180, 220, etc with an orbital. Go up to 800 or more and they will be smooth and look similar to stock. You won't need to polish them. just get a uniformed matte finish if you are seeing matte aluminum.


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#13 2012-11-12 5:59am

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

Houndog, I've never been able to get my rims looking any better than the ones in your pictures just by cleaning, no matter how much time I put into them.

On the other hand, I ride all my bikes with brakes, so they always end up back at square one anyway.


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#14 2012-11-12 7:52am

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

Thanks for the responses on this.  I think what I'm going to wind up doing is to shiny side them.  It's just such a p.i.t.a.  BUT, it is worth it in the end.

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#15 2012-11-12 9:23am

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

Keep in mind, if you shiny side, brake rub will then again set in on the shiny sides. So, if you're gonna end up riding on them, I'd suggest you don't spend all that time on the actual polish side of shiny siding. Just take a super fine sanding block, and run that last pre-polishing step of fine sanding on them. Will clean them up real nice.


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#16 2012-11-12 10:54am

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

markmc97225 wrote:

Keep in mind, if you shiny side, brake rub will then again set in on the shiny sides. So, if you're gonna end up riding on them, I'd suggest you don't spend all that time on the actual polish side of shiny siding. Just take a super fine sanding block, and run that last pre-polishing step of fine sanding on them. Will clean them up real nice.

+1.

Don't polish it you are going ride. They'll get more marks and it'll probably look better with wear marks on matte aluminum anyway.


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#17 2012-11-12 12:11pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

SOS pad will have it looking like knew in a couple of minutes...

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#18 2012-11-12 8:33pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

dudes that is probably clear hard ano. it a i b hole to get off it's not like regular ano

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#19 2012-11-13 10:36am

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dudes that is probably clear hard ano. it a i b hole to get off it's not like regular ano

Are you saying Ukia's anodizing is different than Araya's? That could be, I don't know. I know there is modern clear hard anno, but back in the day I thgouth it was only available in brownish-black. I've sanded several beat to hell Araya's and refinished or shiny sided and never had any trouble. I've owned ukia's bitd and sold a black one recently. The coating was a glossy black. I assumed they were painted. Are these clear rims hard annoed? I'd still think it would sand right off if the brake pads could rub it off.


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#20 2012-11-13 10:42am

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

Ive used a "dremel" in the past to get through the first layer of anno, then finished off with finer grit for the "raw" finish look....works like a dream.


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#21 2012-11-13 5:49pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=300861

I'd just do this and take it to a matte finish, then ride.


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#22 2012-11-13 6:16pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

esw wrote:

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=300861

I'd just do this and take it to a matte finish, then ride.

yep.  this is the thread i used when i did my last set of shiny side rims.  jlewis is the man!

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#23 2012-11-13 9:41pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

esw wrote:

squirrelsmith wrote:

dudes that is probably clear hard ano. it a i b hole to get off it's not like regular ano

Are you saying Ukia's anodizing is different than Araya's? That could be, I don't know. I know there is modern clear hard anno, but back in the day I thgouth it was only available in brownish-black. I've sanded several beat to hell Araya's and refinished or shiny sided and never had any trouble. I've owned ukia's bitd and sold a black one recently. The coating was a glossy black. I assumed they were painted. Are these clear rims hard annoed? I'd still think it would sand right off if the brake pads could rub it off.

Yep.

I used 120 grit aluminum oxide paper on a small block of wood. Got through it pretty fast. Then used a Scotch Brite pad to smooth out the sides a bit. It took maybe an hour or so to do the pair.


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#24 2012-11-13 9:46pm

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Re: brake rub -- is this the best they will get?

i sanded some old arayas that had to of been hard clear ano it was crazy took me days with a power sander

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