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#1 2012-10-31 10:51am

oldmanjoe
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Why do you do that?

I want to put this delicately, as I don't want to point fingers at any one user. I've seen it many times from other users as well.

The situation is a member is trying to buy parts, the total is well over $500, and the buyer states that they need to wait because they don't get paid for a a week or something like that.

So my question is why does anyone spend over $500 on bike parts or any other toy, when they obviously don't have the funds. This usually ends up in the same member selling off stuff in a couple of weeks because they are broke.

Is it just me? I just can't imagine spending $500+ on a desire when I don't have the cash in hand.

Are these people making poor decisions, or am I just missing something?


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#2 2012-10-31 10:58am

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Re: Why do you do that?

I never understood this either. Dont get me wrong i will still take there money but it does seem to be rediculos.

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#3 2012-10-31 11:24am

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Re: Why do you do that?

I will be the first to admit to being a bad decision maker.  I have a frame on hold that is only $100 because my check is lost in the mail from my secondary job that has become my bike funds job.  Check should have arrived last Friday and my real job payday is tomorrow.  I miscalculated the funds in my account, shipping cost for multiple sold goods, and a previous purchase I bought at the beginning of the week left me broke.  Usually I am in much better shape, but the last two months I have had a few surprises that sucked my account dry.  One was a $440.68 cell phone bill that is normally around $70 or less.

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#4 2012-10-31 11:32am

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Re: Why do you do that?

I have people do that to me all the time. I call it the "layaway" program. roll
But I admit, it gets old real fast when you have boxes sitting around packed up waiting for payment so you can ship while others who have the cash now would have bought the part already.
I'm talking I have stuff stretched out 6+ weeks and a few going on a little over a week as well.
I am thinking about putting "immediate payment" in my posts like some other sellers, seems to work.


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#5 2012-10-31 11:39am

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Re: Why do you do that?

I've waited before and I consider it no big deal. All my items are listed in the beta section so I simply hide the ad till payment is made. If no payment is made by the date agreed upon, the listing gets reactivated and away I go.

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#6 2012-10-31 11:42am

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Re: Why do you do that?

I wait sometimes as well. Big purchases are far and few between. Good feedback and member always has credibility. Better than it not selling and reposting, same time frame.

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#7 2012-10-31 11:44am

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Re: Why do you do that?

Isn't this the reason a lot of economies are in the toilet, spending money that you don't have?


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#8 2012-10-31 11:46am

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Re: Why do you do that?

I think all of us have made bad decisions motivated by nostalgic emotions, greed, peer acceptance, a good deal not to be passed up etc. I try to let my hobby pay for itself at least 80% of the time otherwise I don't buy it.  Yeah sometimes I miss a great deal but that is the way it goes. I say if your family has food, shelter, clothing and you are not in default Play the game of BMX collecting if you like.

I do foresee selling off a lot of my stuff this winter to make room in the garage and just to remove the excessive clutter and parts that have gathered up over time.


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#9 2012-10-31 11:51am

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Re: Why do you do that?

The thing is, I understand maybe $100 or so. I can tighten the belt for a bit to make up the difference.

But when we are talking significantly more than that, that's where don't get it.

It would take me months to accumulate an "extra" $500.  So I put away in advance if I'm looking to buy. I get that things come up that you hadn't considered, but family financials are always secured first, including that safety net, cause bad stuff happens.


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#10 2012-10-31 11:55am

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Re: Why do you do that?

If the seller get's paid I don't see the problem. It is the same as using a credit card to acquire stuff.


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#11 2012-10-31 12:04pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

Axel10 wrote:

If the seller get's paid I don't see the problem. It is the same as using a credit card to acquire stuff.

You are making the assumption that buying things you cannot afford on credit isn't a bad thing either. I disagree.

I wish people could do the math when buying on credit. The good deal that you got that inspired you to use that credit card, is no longer a good deal if you have to pay interest on your credit card.

Sorry if I'm coming across judgemental, I've just been seeing to many people (not here, but in real life) buying things they cannot afford, and complaining about being poor and those damn rich people.


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#12 2012-10-31 12:08pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

Actually, I think you are making assumptions. I just stated a point. Anyway, thanks for your outstanding righteousness smile

oldmanjoe wrote:

Axel10 wrote:

If the seller get's paid I don't see the problem. It is the same as using a credit card to acquire stuff.

You are making the assumption that buying things you cannot afford on credit isn't a bad thing either. I disagree.

I wish people could do the math when buying on credit. The good deal that you got that inspired you to use that credit card, is no longer a good deal if you have to pay interest on your credit card.

Sorry if I'm coming across judgemental, I've just been seeing to many people (not here, but in real life) buying things they cannot afford, and complaining about being poor and those damn rich people.


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#13 2012-10-31 12:09pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

I normally would not have a problem paying or passing on the $100 frame i mentioned above.  The frame just happened to be offered at the right/wrong time.  Right time as I had just traded for a matching green Holmes and the two would look nice together and this one would be fun to ride.  Wrong time because I had just paid for an 87 Strike Zone identical to the one my best friend from middle school owned.  I made a comment that it would be a perfect match to my Holmes and the seller contacted me and we made a deal. 

I will add that I have and will work with anyone who communicates as others have done the same for me.  In the situation most of us are in, sometimes payments are the only way one can hope to own some of these bikes/parts.  I know a few who can only slip a $100 here and there without the wife knowing/caring, but a large lump sum would start a war.


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#14 2012-10-31 12:18pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

Axel10 wrote:

Actually, I think you are making assumptions. I just stated a point. Anyway, thanks for your outstanding righteousness smile

oldmanjoe wrote:

Axel10 wrote:

If the seller get's paid I don't see the problem. It is the same as using a credit card to acquire stuff.

You are making the assumption that buying things you cannot afford on credit isn't a bad thing either. I disagree.

I wish people could do the math when buying on credit. The good deal that you got that inspired you to use that credit card, is no longer a good deal if you have to pay interest on your credit card.

Sorry if I'm coming across judgemental, I've just been seeing to many people (not here, but in real life) buying things they cannot afford, and complaining about being poor and those damn rich people.

It would be nice if you read enough of the post to stay on topic. It wasn't about getting paid, it was about buying stuff you can't afford.

So if I'm going to take attitude with me, I might as well point out your failure as well, eh?


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#15 2012-10-31 12:42pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

i have asked members to hold items till i get paid, its not that i cant pay for them, i just wait till i have more money in the account, just in case an emergency comes up!! and i hvae always paid the seller on the day or date that we have come to an agreement on!! if some one needs time to pay thats cool, i have held items for members with no problems!!


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#16 2012-10-31 12:43pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

Its no different than a brand new Escalade in a roach infested apt complex...

I don't get it and drive a 16 year old car...


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#17 2012-10-31 12:55pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

Yo, check my ride. I'm rich!

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#18 2012-10-31 12:55pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

Maybe they owe their supplier at the moment but will have plenty of profit in a week or so lol


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#19 2012-10-31 1:06pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

I've asked for things to be held, my 2nd job is bike money so I sometimes have to wait for the bike money paycheck.
under the same assumption of the person not being able to afford it, assume they can.


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#20 2012-10-31 1:54pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

I ll say I make poor desicions. Just bought. Frame I didn't need an font have the money to build right now but I had to have it.  Maybe I'll end up getting rid of it but had to get it in y hands.  Sometimes you just can't say no.


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#21 2012-10-31 3:24pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

itsdug wrote:

Yo, check my ride. I'm rich!

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#22 2012-10-31 3:33pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

I have had sellers hold parts for a few days with out a problem.Those of us that are contractors get draw checks on jobs.And may have $50.00 one week and $5000.00 the next.It all depends on how your money rolls in.

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#23 2012-10-31 3:49pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

I can understand a request for holding something that you really are after, perhaps you were searching for a long time and you just want to have more $$ in the account so that the purchase is not really felt.

But then yeah, I am not sure with folks that spend more than a weeks wage on a frame or something and post photos of it from the living room or yard and clearly you can see that the frame and fork combo is more or less the most expensive thing thats come into that household for a while.

seriously score or not, I find it really strange when folks mention how much they were offered or we can see plain as day how much something is worth.  They choose to have a bike over putting some $$ towards something more important.

I had a near by neighbour that once told me about her rattle can purple and black fade job kawasaki z900.  Claims she was once offered $10k for it and it was mega collectible, ok then you choose to keep it rather than take $10k.  I never saw it run and I'm pretty sure she paid for a flatbed to come take it to scrap a few years later.  They had 3 cats a dog and took in furniture from hard rubbish drops.

Seriously I was called a yuppie by a friend, I really like the guy, but I have a nissan truck with leather seats, I bought it new and in 2009 big trucks were not selling, sat nav, leather, all the accessories were being dumped on them.  Over the 5 years paying for it do you think I'll notice the extra grand for leather?  But I had to come past his house to pick him up to go train at the track one day, he had no money for fuel, I don't know how many rare bikes he has, but I know of at least 4-5 that have f&f sets worth over a grand all day every day.  Has a wife and kids also.

anyway, there is a few examples I can think of and that's my opinion.  I'm sort of sorry if you don't like it.

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#24 2012-10-31 3:50pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

oldmanjoe wrote:

Axel10 wrote:

If the seller get's paid I don't see the problem. It is the same as using a credit card to acquire stuff.

You are making the assumption that buying things you cannot afford on credit isn't a bad thing either. I disagree.

I wish people could do the math when buying on credit. The good deal that you got that inspired you to use that credit card, is no longer a good deal if you have to pay interest on your credit card.

Sorry if I'm coming across judgemental, I've just been seeing to many people (not here, but in real life) buying things they cannot afford, and complaining about being poor and those damn rich people.

You couldn't be more correct. We must be voting for the same candidate.

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#25 2012-10-31 3:52pm

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Re: Why do you do that?

Its not always about having or not having the funds. I recently (within the last few months) have been working on a transaction for a complete bike. It was fairly pricey, close to a $1000. I asked if he would do a payment plan, maybe... week later no. This correspondence went on for just over 3 weeks. Mind you this would have been the last week of my proposed payment schedule. It was just simply let me know when you have the funds. So roughly after about 7.5 weeks I sent the money. And didn;t get the bike for another two weeks.

I just wanted to spread the cost out across a few paychecks, no big loss on my end. But over 2 months later we got her dealt with. roll I suppose not everyones situation is as cut and dry as everybody elses.


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