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This all reaks of dishonesty and lies......................

I have kept silent on this thread until now to see how things would unfold.  I bought the first sets that surfaced on here, before all of the sets got posted up on ebay.  I also was in contact with the seller before everyone started going CSI bmx on her.

I thought that the seller was 1vwnut on here because that's who I bought the tensioners from.  When I asked, the seller told me,

"Ha! I am none of them. I sold a bunch at a bike show over the weekend and those may have been the resales?! I am listing tensioners AND canti straddle holders in EVERY color rite NOW."

I messaged her back asking where she got all the stuff and she replied,

"I had a bike shop years ago and now...it's like I have a bike shop"

She went on to tell me that she had a lot of stuff in storage and was working on getting it out...Then when everyone started going nuts, I just sat back and watched to see what she listed.  Since she had several sets listed in each color in "buy it now" style auctions and I saw a few other people were selling the same style tensioners, I was slightly suspicious.  Then I did some thinking.

I knew from prior knowledge from the vg ads that they had made a tensioner that style.  I also knew that I'd never seen a set for sale and the only set that I'd ever seen was kcmobmx's purple set.  So I thought IF someone was going to repop a VG part WHY this set of tensioners??? And HOW would they have done it???  I'm not super knowledgeable on CNC, but I would assume that they would need a example of the part to copy it.  Considering that it's a rare style of tensioner that I had only seen one other set, I'm not too sure that they would have had access to a set.  Also, IF someone was going to repop that particular set of tensioners, WHY would they put the VG logo on there?  All of the pictures from the ads and kcmobmx's purple set did not have VG etched into them.  So IF they were trying to copy it, why would they add something to the part that wasn't there on the other known examples?  That made no sense to me.  If they were trying to make copies, they would try to make them EXACTLY the same.  Also, WHY that style of tensioner?  Why wouldn't they pick the much more recognizable style spur tensioner?  There are plenty of those sets around and they would be easier to copy.

So I am ASSUMING that the tensioners that have popped up are either NOS from a late run of VG parts before they shut up shop, OR Von is making parts again and he made these new tensioners. 

As far as why multiple sellers had the same tensioners, the ebay seller said that she sold some stuff at a bike show that weekend and the other sets that have popped up could be re-sales of her product.  That makes sense to me because the seller is from California, 1vwnut is from California, and the other ebay seller is from California as well. 

AS A DISCLAIMER, I AM NOT A EXPERT...DON'T TAKE MY OPINION AS FACT...As I read everyone else's opinion (and sometimes overreaction) in this thread, I took it as a grain of salt...You know what they say, "Opinion's are like a-holes, everyone has one!" No offense to the newbs on here, but there are only a few collectors in here who's opinions hold any weight in my eyes and those people are Jacob and Darren.  Jacob because of his extensive VG collection and Darren because he's been collecting mid stuff in Cali forever...

radbmx77 wrote:

Ok I walked over to VG he has not released anything to nobody. If anyone is repop them there will be a lawsuit. Ncbbmx product has been in talks with them for over a year now. I saw the parts at the bike show and they are not repops.

should have showed him the pictures and asked if he made them

MonocoqueMike wrote:

NJ_Cyclecraft wrote:

I will have lots more info and exciting information posted early next week.

If you have information, why not tell us?  I don't understand why it seems like you're leaking info bit by bit...Who are you getting this information from??  I'd like to know since you've done a complete 180...

I plan on and will release all the info I have. I am on a layover in Phoenix right now, but I will be putting together a Ton of information starting tomorrow. So much that my head is spinning! In a good way!

Leanord saw the parts at the bike show 2 weeks ago (he only stayed for 20 mins). And he saw them again last night when we had dinner to discuss the future of VG Precision Components.

Lots of exciting news for the community coming early next week!

j8ee wrote:

NJ_Cyclecraft wrote:

MonocoqueMike wrote:

If you have information, why not tell us?  I don't understand why it seems like you're leaking info bit by bit...Who are you getting this information from??  I'd like to know since you've done a complete 180...

I plan on and will release all the info I have. I am on a layover in Phoenix right now, but I will be putting together a Ton of information starting tomorrow. So much that my head is spinning! In a good way!

Leanord saw the parts at the bike show 2 weeks ago (he only stayed for 20 mins). And he saw them again last night when we had dinner to discuss the future of VG Precision Components.

Lots of exciting news for the community coming early next week!

Promises? Promises?

Hmm...can't wait for the news, hope it is something good and not something that makes the value of all my VG Components go through the floor! 

MonocoqueMike wrote:

NJ_Cyclecraft wrote:

And he saw them again last night when we had dinner to discuss the future of VG Precision Components.

This sounds like you're trying to get VG to start making stuff again?

That's exactly what it sounds like.  While I would love to see some new designs and see VG back in BMX, just not at the cost of the devaluation of my VG collection.  It will be interesting to see what happens.

Check out the time stamps on some of the edits from 8/1...They were edited a week later on 8/8...

I don't care who talked to who or whatever the f*ck. It's a f*ckin' sham. This is what greed brings. People machining up a bunch of Knight crap because they already have the CNC programs for them, putting their well known top dollar bringing logo on the sh*t, and selling it as legit og VG parts. I'm sure he still has the programs for EVERY VG part they made, including the levers. It really is bullsh*t for all of us that have real og VG parts, most paying good money for it, too. "NJ_Cyclecraft"....just stop it, seriously. Nobody thinks you're cool. Admit it, you wrote a bunch of completely erroneous posts thinking everybody would be like, "OH NJ_Cyclecraft, YOU"RE SO F-ING BAD@SS!! CAN I BE YOU"RE SPECIAL INTERNET FRIEND!??", it didn't work, and then went back and edited your posts, so you wouldn't look like such a flaming jack@ss to the people that didn't read what you ACTUALLY wrote originally. If those tensioners and hangers were around when the og VG stuff was being made, then at least one of us from the Bay Area would know they were. Anybody??? And not someone who just happened to read this post the same day they started their profile.

Uh Oh

NJ_Cyclecraft wrote:

BossHogg80 wrote:

I don't care who talked to who or whatever the f*ck. It's a f*ckin' sham. This is what greed brings. People machining up a bunch of Knight crap because they already have the CNC programs for them, putting their well known top dollar bringing logo on the sh*t, and selling it as legit og VG parts. I'm sure he still has the programs for EVERY VG part they made, including the levers. It really is bullsh*t for all of us that have real og VG parts, most paying good money for it, too. "NJ_Cyclecraft"....just stop it, seriously. Nobody thinks you're cool. Admit it, you wrote a bunch of completely erroneous posts thinking everybody would be like, "OH NJ_Cyclecraft, YOU"RE SO F-ING BAD@SS!! CAN I BE YOU"RE SPECIAL INTERNET FRIEND!??", it didn't work, and then went back and edited your posts, so you wouldn't look like such a flaming jack@ss to the people that didn't read what you ACTUALLY wrote originally. If those tensioners and hangers were around when the og VG stuff was being made, then at least one of us from the Bay Area would know they were. Anybody??? And not someone who just happened to read this post the same day they started their profile.

This has to be the most ignorant post today.

If you don't give a "f*ck" then stop putting out false information and doing the BMX community a disservice. You talk like you have a clue what's going on....but you don't.

I will not entertain an internet fight with you and wont even answer another one of your posts if its anything like this one.

Post REAL proof and prove me wrong then. I'll be more than happy to admit I'm wrong IF you can prove it. And by me saying, "It really is bullsh*t for all of us that have real og VG parts, most paying good money for it, too." means I don't give a "f*ck"? EVERY part VG made could have been seen on any given weekend at the Santa Clara PAL track. VG was a local company and their parts were EVERYWHERE around here. I'm sorry, you're full of sh*t, like I said, prove me wrong.

I'll be posting all the info on this forum next week, you can apologize then if you want. Not in a rush....

I want to make sure things get done the right way and that they get presented the right way. I don't have time to play he said she said games with BossHogg, but thank you to everyone who has reached out to me, everyone I met in Cali and everyone that is eagerly awaiting the good news!

In the meantime here are some Teaser pics of OG NOS PARTS from Leonard Von Giese LAST PART RUN in the 1990's! (Only a handful were signed and numbered, some will be sold, some will be given away and some will be randomly inserted into new orders!) but I am jumping ahead of myself a little... This IS going to get exciting for everyone that wants to be a part of it!

tennisbum_132 wrote:

NJ_Cyclecraft wrote:

tennisbum_132 wrote:

That's exactly what it sounds like.  While I would love to see some new designs and see VG back in BMX, just not at the cost of the devaluation of my VG collection.  It will be interesting to see what happens.

IF anything was to be reprocduced....There WILL be ways to distiguish OG parts from a new line.

Then I can't wait to see some new VG Components!  ...providing that IS the news. 

Good! Me either! This teaser pics for you

Hot of the press 8-10-12 (nice lucky date for the first run!) These are the first 50 Sets and will be individually stamped with serial numbers!

(VG logos will be inscribed on these SPURS!) And you WILL be able to tell them from OG SPURS. This is just the beginning folks!



I am holding the first prototype in my hands right now.