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Hi, I made this thread to stress how much it hurts to see survivor bikes get parted and/or refinished. This is a topic that is always highly debated and i may be opening a can of worms but i love worms. When i first started collecting bikes i used to take the decals off and replace them with new ones.. Now i cant even take the bike seriously if the decals arent beat and old looking. If the bike is super beat a refinish might be justified but i would probably sell after that. I understand why riders would like powder because its durable and cheap but as far as im concerned i would never powder anything im thinkin bout keeping. OLD BIKES WITH OLD DECALS HAVE OLD STORIES AND AN OLD SOUL!! SAVE THE SURVIVORS!!!!! !

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR SURVIVORS!!!

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Kurt_Rad · 2012-05-14 2:45pm

In for the drama...

turkeybags · 2012-05-14 2:54pm

Everyone i know personally knows how much i dislike powder but chips powder is cool because its thin and dont look like powder. NO CHUBBY POWDER

SKYWAYNE1026 · 2012-05-14 2:57pm

When I first started I was in the refinishing mindset but as I got more involved and matured I began to appreciate the value & beauty of survivor condition. I'm not against taking things apart, cleaning & shinning them to make them as nice as possible, my National Pro & Thruster are examples of just really clean used builds and I love them both. I haven't had the good fortune to come across many complete survivors but I don't like when people leave bikes "Barn Fresh" there's nothing wrong with removing vintage dirt & grease.

turkeybags · 2012-05-14 3:03pm

SKYWAYNE1026 wrote:
When I first started I was in the refinishing mindset but as I got more involved and matured I began to appreciate the value & beauty of survivor condition. I'm not against taking things apart, cleaning & shinning them to make them as nice as possible, my National Pro & Thruster are examples of just really clean used builds and I love them both. I haven't had the good fortune to come across many complete survivors but I don't like when people leave bikes "Barn Fresh" there's nothing wrong with removing vintage dirt & grease.

I agree 100%. Nothing wrong with cleaning and making it run smooth. Ive parted bikes in the past aswell but if they were not all dinged up i wouldnt have. I almost feel like my survivor bikes are haunted. A good haunted though.

Stoner71 · 2012-05-14 3:13pm

Kurt_Rad wrote:
In for the drama...

+1.............

If you like original, leave it. If you want to refinish it, refinish it. Its just a bike........Its not the United States Constitution or the cup of Christ from the last supper. The only issue should be if people have the brass to ride them rather than be scared of them.

zero07 · 2012-05-14 3:17pm

I have a survivor 87 purple Performer.. its in great shape so I cleaned it up and left it alone. Im not against restoring however if the bike is just trashed. To each his own, I know when I have redone a bike, it was because I wanted to own the bike that I saw as it was in the bike shop when it was new but I could never buy it.

turkeybags · 2012-05-14 3:21pm

Stoner71 wrote:
Kurt_Rad wrote:
In for the drama...
+1.............

If you like original, leave it. If you want to refinish it, refinish it. Its just a bike........Its not the United States Constitution or the cup of Christ from the last supper. The only issue should be if people have the brass to ride them rather than be scared of them.

Please no drama!! Im just voicing my opinion on how i feel about survivors. I have many friends with refinished bikes and they look dope. All im saying is i like when people restore them right. When my friend hit me up and said he repowdered an 84 gt thats OG chrome wasnt bad and no dings, i was like UH OH! He said he got it done by chip and when i saw it i was surprised how thin and not chubby the powder looked. If i ever got something powdered it would be by that dude period.

Ray · 2012-05-14 3:35pm

I am not a big fan of re-finished bikes. But I have no Problem with people parting out a survivor. the parts will go to build another bike. Unless it is a special bike like woodies Gold Trick Star or something. if it is a big deal that survivors get parted just buy all the parts LOL . problem solved.

kwhite27 · 2012-05-14 3:35pm

Atually I think it's a good topic. Probably been covered a dozen or so times....but I like it. All my bikes are rider/survivor/good to great condition. But the thing I always do is replace decals. I clean, polish and shine as much of the bike as I can and then replace the decals...unless they are in good condition. I'm not into building NOS or dead mint....or minty for the glee club but I do like the bike to look as nice as it possibly can. As far as paint/powder....all my bikes are chrome but one and that is paint. My .02

jonny77 · 2012-05-14 3:38pm

word turkey and that is all I can say

84mach1 · 2012-05-14 3:39pm

So let me ask you guys this.

Would you rather buy a survivor condition bike, or a restored one?

I got a survivor (a complete) that I'm going to sell, a Schwinn Tange (Japanese made) Predator with ARX forks. But it's rusty and got a lot of OG looking stickers.

changachump · 2012-05-14 3:40pm

How about reconditioning a bike to new condition,
then riding the hell out of it to mimic a survivor?

OLDSKOOLPK · 2012-05-14 3:40pm

Thats all i collect. OG finish stuff.

I find it more of a adventure to find the nicest my pocket can buy, then to buy a turd and have it restored.

There is nothing wrong with a restored bike....it just doesnt catch my eye or vote at the gatherings.

matrutledg · 2012-05-14 3:40pm

What would you do with one like this?

jokerman13922 · 2012-05-14 3:41pm

would this be a survivor? or worth redoing?
as found

daripper · 2012-05-14 3:42pm

I have only ever re-finished 1 bike, my white PK, and it was painted not powdered.

I dont agree with powdering anything and all my builds now are done with survivor parts..... nothing refinished, as for parting a survivor, well usually the parts go into other "survivor builds", unless its something special then it should be saved.

Kurt_Rad · 2012-05-14 3:44pm

If bikes weren't parted out we would all have to build with repop parts...

matrutledg · 2012-05-14 3:46pm

I agree, a NICE survivor should stay that way. A pos, I say restore away...

johnng23604 · 2012-05-14 4:12pm

Save the survivors, I do!
(check out my collection of geese an such)
Save them all if possible, unless they are really bad and rusting away.
Then part them out or restore?

Ray · 2012-05-14 4:16pm

I added to one of my survivors. my son thinks it turned out ok.

johnng23604 · 2012-05-14 4:17pm

Ray wrote:
I added to one of my survivors. my son thinks it turned out ok.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee24 … onhack.jpg

Kurt_Rad · 2012-05-14 4:19pm

Parting stuff I don't want allows me to buy the stuff I do want...

its-all-good · 2012-05-14 4:23pm

Here are a few I picked not too long ago.

Darkman · 2012-05-14 4:42pm

Initially I had planned a full restore of this bike. I still might...

This bike is my survivor 1991 R.L. Inc. Bully Bashguard I. I have owned it since 1994 and i am responsible for all the scuffs and wear on it.

I have begun to collect reproduction stuff for it for the restore.

I would love to see this bike restored to it's former glory but part of me loves it the way it is, regardless of whether or not I restore it I still might put the new decals on it just because they look cool.

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