Saved this old Webco from being scrapped  RSS Feed

#1 2012-03-13 8:16am

Robertlee
Pro Member
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 256
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Hi I was recently visiting family in SC. My mother in law told me that the old cotton gin down the road was beng taken down because it had partially collapsed. Well the next day we drove by it and I seen this old bike leaning up against the fence. An hour or so later I slipped out and drove up there. I got there just in time as it was being hauled off. I asked the guy about it and he said it was his bike from new and he had  left it there 30 some odd years ago. He said he got the Webco because his friends were breaking their bikes. He said he also upgraded to the thicker spokes. He also told me that he had painted at some point and that it was originally blue. He also said that it was all og but he may have changed the tires at some point. I told him I would love to have it and made him an offer he couldnt refuse. He accepted and I was on cloud nine. Dont know alot them except that they are huge piece of bmx history. It had the square undrilled brake bridge. The sn# is W36567. Any info would be awesome. I would like to find a correct seat and post.

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco%20restore/IMAG0256.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco%20restore/IMAG0264.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco%20restore/IMAG0260.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco%20restore/IMAG0258.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco%20restore/IMAG0262.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco%20restore/IMAG0257.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco%20restore/IMAG0259.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco%20restore/IMAG0265.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/Robertlee72/Webco/IMAG0263.jpg

Last edited by Robertlee (2012-08-28 10:48am)

Offline

 

#2 2012-03-13 8:49am

KoolAidMan
Pro MemberMuseum Addict
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: 2011-05-14
Posts: 2748
Bikes: 4
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Nice save .... big_smile


[img]http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/menpup_lg.png[/img]

Offline

 

#3 2012-03-13 9:05am

Robertlee
Pro Member
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 256
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Thankyou. How can I tell a replica from the true Webco?

Offline

 

#4 2012-03-13 9:13am

Kai
Pro Member"1982"
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 7261
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Replica was a model name from Webco.It is a real Webco.The square brake bridge and the hole in the chainstay block are good indicators.


The Mongoo$e rides

Offline

 

#5 2012-03-13 9:27am

Kai
Pro Member"1982"
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 7261
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

The Webco serials don't have any dating info that I'm aware of,but the Ashtabula cranks and stem will have a 2 digit stamp that tells the year they were made.No doubt they are original to the bike.


The Mongoo$e rides

Offline

 

#6 2012-03-13 9:28am

Robertlee
Pro Member
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 256
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Thanks, very cool. So its probably a replica then. Looking around on the site I have determined that the seat post should be 7/8". What kind of seat was common on these. Troxel? Also looking at the cranks, forks, and stem I see no markings where as the asthtabula stuff seem to have it on the somewhere. What year year(s) would you guys guess this to be? Thanks for the info.

Offline

 

#7 2012-03-13 9:40am

Kai
Pro Member"1982"
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 7261
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

You should be able to find a 2 digit stamp on the inside of the fork dropouts,too.You'd have to take the wheel off to see it.Take a close look at that little nub on the cranks that goes into the chainwheel.It will be stamped on 2 sides,one being the year,the other will say 40,or something like that.Anyone can take a guess.I'll guess '77 since there is no hole in the bridge.

Last edited by Kai (2012-03-13 9:46am)


The Mongoo$e rides

Offline

 

#8 2012-03-13 9:56am

markmc97225
Pro Member
From: Beaverton, OR
Registered: 2008-05-29
Posts: 3995
Bikes: 5
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Kai wrote:

The Webco serials don't have any dating info that I'm aware of,but the Ashtabula cranks and stem will have a 2 digit stamp that tells the year they were made.No doubt they are original to the bike.

Are you sure? I was sure that W36567 decoded to Webco, made March(3) 65th(65) of 1967(67). That's on the Mayan calendar, so, I don't expect most folks understand it.

big_smile

Certainly a nice save. Some guys here truly will get you dialed into the actual dates, but as Kai noted, the stem and cranks will have a date code and that will really help.

Have fun with it!


Whenever someone says, "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart," all I hear is, "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart."

Offline

 

#9 2012-03-13 10:02am

Kai
Pro Member"1982"
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 7261
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Since the Mayan calander didn't account for leap years,we should have rolled off this mortal coil 7 months ago!


The Mongoo$e rides

Offline

 

#10 2012-03-13 10:57am

Robertlee
Pro Member
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 256
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Thats funny Kai, I will take a closer look at it. Thank you all very much for your help. I love this thing... Only the second owner after 35 ish years. Awesome. I have noticed on other ashtabula forks that "Ashtabula is Molded into the side of the fork. Is that a newer or older version of the same fork? It looks as though the guy, when he was a child, peeled off the seat post decal and put it on the head tube after he painted it. At least the others I ve looked at have the WI decal on the seat tube. Do you think the stem is ashtabula as well? BTW it does appear as though the stem is slightly bent forward. I think most everything will clean up real nice. Light surface rust mainly. Steel Araya rims look pretty darn good. Restore or just replace what is missing and clean it up? Im kinda a pureist but this one os on the fence and a pretty easy restore. If I can get the correct colors, blue and black,  I have a professional painter buddy Ive know for ions that will paint it for hardly nothing. I have all the mediablasting equipment. And i am working on a os bath setup. PS the tt of handlebars is gone. The welds have been smoothed out so I dont know if it was removed on purpose or if it broke and then was removed. Are the handle bars Wald bars?

Last edited by Robertlee (2012-03-13 10:58am)

Offline

 

#11 2012-03-13 11:01am

Robertlee
Pro Member
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 256
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Im no expert by any means but doesnt 67 seem a little early?

Offline

 

#12 2012-03-13 11:38am

KoolAidMan
Pro MemberMuseum Addict
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: 2011-05-14
Posts: 2748
Bikes: 4
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

markmc97225 wrote:

Kai wrote:

The Webco serials don't have any dating info that I'm aware of,but the Ashtabula cranks and stem will have a 2 digit stamp that tells the year they were made.No doubt they are original to the bike.

Are you sure? I was sure that W36567 decoded to Webco, made March(3) 65th(65) of 1967(67). That's on the Mayan calendar, so, I don't expect most folks understand it.

big_smile

Certainly a nice save. Some guys here truly will get you dialed into the actual dates, but as Kai noted, the stem and cranks will have a date code and that will really help.

Have fun with it!

Robertlee wrote:

Im no expert by any means but doesnt 67 seem a little early?

I think Mark was poking fun at the fact that Webco serials don't define the manufacture date like other brands. Probably also making fun of some of the mythos surrounding dating arguments, I'm sure. wink

I also agree that the cranks and stem are likely original to the bike and will help greatly to give a dating on this bike since there is certainly a date-stamp on either/both of them.


[img]http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/menpup_lg.png[/img]

Offline

 

#13 2012-03-13 12:16pm

Kai
Pro Member"1982"
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: 2006-11-08
Posts: 7261
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Ashtabula made both stamped and unstamped forks concurrently.Same with stems.


The Mongoo$e rides

Offline

 

#14 2012-03-13 12:27pm

old_school_rules
Pro Member
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: 2009-10-27
Posts: 759
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

its a 1975 have one just like it no hole for brakes makes it about a 1975


leave me feed back like i leave u feedback

Offline

 

#15 2012-03-13 12:46pm

Scraplord
Pro MemberMetal God
From: Portland, OR
Registered: 2006-12-11
Posts: 9144
Bikes: 12
For Sale
Website

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Scraped?? I assume you mean scrapped? yikeslol


Still searching for my missing bikes from BITD. 1979 Blue Max serial: CI9 221346 and 1977 Webco serial: 42667. Both were last seen at Spoke and Sport Bicycles in Spokane, WA around 1984. $600 reward if found!!

    "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that"  - George Carlin

    "American dream turns to dust. So give us a god that does not rust" - Clutch
   
                            WANT TO BUY: BLACK RAD PAD FRAME PAD AND CHROME TUF NECK STAMPED STRAIGHT SEATPOST!

Offline

 

#16 2012-03-13 12:50pm

psychoduddycycles
WAYYYY in the red since 1983
From: New Orleans, LA
Registered: 2006-12-31
Posts: 9582
Bikes: 9

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

I dig it.


My signature doesn't define me.

Offline

 

#17 2012-03-13 1:14pm

old_school_rules
Pro Member
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: 2009-10-27
Posts: 759
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

webco's are cool just wish i had a nickel redline fork to go with mine


leave me feed back like i leave u feedback

Offline

 

#18 2012-03-13 2:55pm

Robertlee
Pro Member
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 256
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Yes Scraplord I meant scrapped, lol. I will check the cranks and forks hopefully tonight. And since it was already repainted and decals removed I think I will restore it. I need the seat, seat post, decals,  maybe a stem, and a set of bars for it. Would also like to get the color code if anyone happens to have it for the correct blue.

Old school rules- gl with your search for the nickel plated reline forks.
Koolaid man thanks for clarifying kind of thought that might be the case.

Offline

 

#19 2012-03-13 3:10pm

Robertlee
Pro Member
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 256
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Ok I took off the tire and the forks have 78, the crank has either 78 or 76 cant tell but i will lean toward 78.

Offline

 

#20 2012-03-13 3:18pm

old_school_rules
Pro Member
From: Milwaukee, WI
Registered: 2009-10-27
Posts: 759
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped


leave me feed back like i leave u feedback

Offline

 

#21 2012-03-13 3:24pm

King Tusk
Museum Addict
From: Lost Angels, CA
Registered: 2010-08-18
Posts: 1249

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

If it could speak it would thank you. Sweet save.
Screams classic. cool

Offline

 

#22 2012-03-13 3:49pm

KoolAidMan
Pro MemberMuseum Addict
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Registered: 2011-05-14
Posts: 2748
Bikes: 4
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Robertlee wrote:

Yes Scraplord I meant scrapped, lol. I will check the cranks and forks hopefully tonight. And since it was already repainted and decals removed I think I will restore it. I need the seat, seat post, decals,  maybe a stem, and a set of bars for it. Would also like to get the color code if anyone happens to have it for the correct blue.

Old school rules- gl with your search for the nickel plated reline forks.
Koolaid man thanks for clarifying kind of thought that might be the case.

Dude, of course .... ! smile
Great pick-up; enjoy it!


[img]http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/menpup_lg.png[/img]

Offline

 

#23 2012-03-13 8:24pm

Tony1970
Pro Member
From: Novato, CA
Registered: 2011-09-18
Posts: 68
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Robertlee wrote:

Yes Scraplord I meant scrapped, lol. I will check the cranks and forks hopefully tonight. And since it was already repainted and decals removed I think I will restore it. I need the seat, seat post, decals,  maybe a stem, and a set of bars for it. Would also like to get the color code if anyone happens to have it for the correct blue.

Old school rules- gl with your search for the nickel plated reline forks.
Koolaid man thanks for clarifying kind of thought that might be the case.

Bars may be original Webco. Check others in the Museum to compare.  I have been looking for an original Webco chainwheel like yours to complete my Webco build. Nice score, enjoy it!

Last edited by Tony1970 (2012-03-13 8:26pm)


"Coaster brakes or death!"

Offline

 

#24 2012-03-13 8:31pm

AirInk
McMike
From: North Quabbin, MA
Registered: 2011-07-12
Posts: 1459
Bikes: 11
Website

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped

Whhikid!  Nice grab!


Never argue with a fool, for they may be doing the same.

"When is the last time you did something for the first time?"
                                                       David Lee Roth

Offline

 

#25 2012-03-13 10:36pm

Tony1970
Pro Member
From: Novato, CA
Registered: 2011-09-18
Posts: 68
Bikes: 2
For Sale

Re: Saved this old Webco from being scrapped


"Coaster brakes or death!"

Offline

 

Board footer