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#1 2011-08-18 4:31pm

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18 inchers, what made you decide?

Now I'm seriously considering the purchase of an 18 in bike for the kids to ride and learn basic tricks on.  Have seen a 2 Hip and Felt (18.5) in person and viewed other models on the web.  Any one have any recommendations or reasons for going with one over the other. Maybe I should just get a 20 and let them grow into it...

Oh, and pics of 18s if you got one please  big_smile

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#2 2011-08-18 4:46pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

We personally skipped the 18". We have a intense pit bike,which has a generous top tube and just switched to a 20.5 trail bike...no regrets! My son is almost 10. Good luck. cool


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#3 2011-08-18 4:48pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Thats a 20" with a 20.5 top tube,165mm cranks,drop stem,7.5" bars...ect 2 make it fit!! cool


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#4 2011-08-18 5:49pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

This is my 7 year olds Hoffman 18. Reason for Purchase included Fit, Quality, and the Boys at Albes made me do it! big_smile
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae103/jumpinjim/0509111548a.jpg


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#5 2011-08-18 5:51pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae103/jumpinjim/0427111824a.jpg


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#6 2011-08-18 5:52pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae103/jumpinjim/0828101444a-1.jpg


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#7 2011-08-19 10:36am

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

we feel if a BMX/jumping bike fits properly then it'll be easier to learn a few tricks on.  once you learn a trick you get a sense of accomplishment and may want to stick with it to learn more.  if a kid isn't progressing then a lot of them lose interest and a bike that's maybe even a little under-sized after a year is still going to be easier to bunny hop, manual and jump.  we hear parents all the time tell us about their kids getting into skateboarding but giving up because they couldn't do any of the tricks they saw on the videos so if i can sell a kid a bike and he can bunny hop or even do a wheelie the first day then that kid just might end up being the next Daniel Dhers...or they may lose interest anyway, haha.

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#8 2011-08-19 10:49am

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

I'm debating on getting my 7 year old an 18". He has a mini race bike (20") right now but he doesn't race. Soccer and other stuff takes up track time but he loves riding his bike. I'll hold on to the bike for his younger brother and maybe he'll race. As long as they like riding bikes, that is all I care about.

20 is just too big for my kid but 18" is about right. I'd rather have him comfortable on a bike than feel uncomfortable.


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#9 2011-08-19 12:01pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

my 10 year old son rocks his 18" and loves it. He's got a 20" too, but can throw around the smaller bike much better.


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#10 2011-08-19 2:45pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

my son is 6 and his 16 still fits him good, but its a tank. im thinking about getting him an 18. theres a verde 18 i saw in dans that looked pretty sweet for the money. it seems like theres not a lot of 18's to choose from, maybe im looking in the wrong places??? if anyone see's some nice ones, post them up. thanks!


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#11 2011-08-19 2:52pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Kink and Fit also have 18s I believe. I know for sure that Kink does.


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#12 2011-08-19 3:50pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

the Fit is a small replica of their 1 series bike in that it has integrated headtube and a mid bottom bracket...and a price to match.  2012s will be here in a few days.

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#13 2011-08-19 4:01pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

having this same delima with my soon to be 7 year old.  He has been racing on a DK Junior, 20x1 3/8 wheels for about a year now but farts around on a 16" Mini-Ripper whch he is starting to be too big for (had a serious growth spurt this summer).  Anyway my question is who makes a 4130 frame & fork in 18"?  All the ones i've looked at seem to be hi-ten steel.  I realize he's not the next Dave Mirra but I have a hard time paying "real" bike prices for a hi-ten frameset.  I think Diamondback makes an aluminum 18" but I haven't seen any others.  Any suggestions?


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#14 2011-08-19 4:11pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Good info and thoughts so far, thanks for everyone who's posted.  I also believe that the DK Intervol is 4130 chomoly frame and cranks according to their site.  Need some pics form 18 in. owners/ shops. 
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#15 2011-08-19 4:45pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

I jumped my sons from a 16 to a 20'.The cost of a 18 definetly took play in this deal also.Most of the 18s I found were in or close to $300 bucks each.My sons were rippin on theyre 16s but then went to 20s and it kind of stumped them and kind of pushed them away from riding every waking minute.I should have searched craigslist for 2 18s and kept the progression goeing.My boys are 7 and 8 and the first thing they do when we go to the bike shops is to go grab the 18s and drool!

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#16 2011-08-19 8:16pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Todd at Albes is 100% right...if the bike fits them properly they're going to stay a lot more motivated and not get discouraged or give up. I went through building up 16"ers, then 18"ers and now 20"ers with both my sons for exactly that reason. They both started out with 16" Haros which we tricked out and made as light as possible. When my older son outgrew his we got him a complete DK 18", but I ended up changing almost every part on it save for frame and forks. By the time my younger son was ready for an 18" I got him a Subrosa Pandora frame and fork and built it up. I decided to go with the Pandora because it's a full chromoly frame and fork set, with all the same features as the full size Subrosas. It cost a small fortune but it was well worth it. I feel it helped him immensely to have a lightweight bike that fit him correctly and had great geometry from the start. He's 12 now and doing a lot of the tricks the big dudes are doing...last night he was practicing barspins at the skatepark.
Here's the bike we built...

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/pete355/subrosa039.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/pete355/subrosa024.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/pete355/subrosa051.jpg

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#17 2011-08-19 8:18pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

bmxerpete wrote:

Todd at Albes is 100% right...if the bike fits them properly they're going to stay a lot more motivated and not get discouraged or give up. I went through building up 16"ers, then 18"ers and now 20"ers with both my sons for exactly that reason. They both started out with 16" Haros which we tricked out and made as light as possible. When my older son outgrew his we got him a complete DK 18", but I ended up changing almost every part on it save for frame and forks. By the time my younger son was ready for an 18" I got him a Subrosa Pandora frame and fork and built it up. I decided to go with the Pandora because it's a full chromoly frame and fork set, with all the same features as the full size Subrosas. It cost a small fortune but it was well worth it. I feel it helped him immensely to have a lightweight bike that fit him correctly and had great geometry from the start. He's 12 now and doing a lot of the tricks the big dudes are doing...last night he was practicing barspins at the skatepark.
Here's the bike we built...

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/ … osa039.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/ … osa024.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/ … osa051.jpg

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#18 2011-08-19 8:23pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

big_smile lol

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#19 2011-08-19 8:28pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Also, if you spend the bucks to build a nice 18", when they're ready for a 20" you can transfer a lot of the parts over to the 20. That's what I did with both of their bikes.

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#20 2011-08-19 10:12pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Like Pete, I have gone a little crazy with the various sizes. I actually started them (I have three sons and a daughter) a 12" Mirraco with a freewheel laced in.
I then move them up to a 16" Redline Pitboss which weisghs in at 15lbs. (currently being powedered purple for my little girl with 16" skyways dyed pink - will be sick) and then I move them up to a Mirraco Project 16 which weisghs right at 18 pounds but is longer than the Redline and is better suited for skate parks.

I have been searching for nearly 3 years for a Mirraco Project 18 and just took delivery of one I found on Ebay in near perfect condition. They only made a few hundred of the Mirraco Project bikes in total so they are hard to find. What is great about them is they are park style aluminum frames. This is how I can get the 18" down below 18 lbs. I am not normally a wight weenie but this makes a huge difference for the little guys. My oldest is 9 and was riding the DK Intervol which is a great bike but it weighs nearly 24 lbs. (even after adding a few lighter parts)That is what my Sunday Model C 24" weighs which is crazy to think about.

I will add some pics of the bikes tomorrow.
Would be interested to know what you have that Pandora weighing in at. (Although at age 12 it is probably not as big of a concern)


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#21 2011-08-19 10:24pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Speedracer, it weighed in at 19 lbs. 4 oz. It had MCS aluminum bars, a Ti spindle, Ti spokes which I cut down from cruiser spokes and aluminum nipples.
He's on a Hoffman Strowler 20" now.

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#22 2011-08-19 10:29pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

I think I remember contacting you about that thing now. Wish I could have bought those wheels off you.


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#23 2011-08-19 10:33pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Here are the 18"s I could find.
Most are either mild steel or are part steel and chromoly.

Kink Kicker
Fit
DK Intervol
Verde Eon
Hoffman Ontic
Mirraco 8ten
WeThePeople Arcade
GT ElCentro
SE Wildman
Haro Z18
Subrosa Pandora

All of the above are in the 23ish to 26 lbs range stock.

S&M has an 18" Dirt bike which looks amazing but it is not a light frame.
Standard will do an 18† for you as well.

I am glad I finally found the Project 18 in the end. I want to see how light I can get it with Ti spinde, spokes etc. and don't mind spending a bunch as I have four kids who will ride it.


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#24 2011-08-19 10:34pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

It's a good thing I never sold them, or the frameset...my kid wants to keep it because it was his first "good" bike. How can I say no to that?  lol

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#25 2011-08-19 10:35pm

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Re: 18 inchers, what made you decide?

Cult is working on an 18" as well that should be out soon.

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