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everybody is trying to jump on the s&m bandwagon!
Looking at all the "used" stuff(not just on the museum) and everything is 20 dollars less than new.(for newschool stuff) and regular new pads for 30 bucks. really?
I'm not complaining that it costs alot but I'm seeing JUNK at retarded prices and ya wonder why its not selling. And some of the stuff that does sell, I can't help but feel sorry for the buyers

drchopper · 2011-08-14 11:10am

I hope so ....

I have noticed that prices are way up and trying to find an 1 1/8" Red Redneck is almost impossible !!

wds · 2011-08-14 11:15am

I've been saying this for a few years now. First similarity was cranks that weren't made in huge quantities with a reputation for breakage that everyone wants. Aerospeeds & Prince Alberts.
Then we start to see people "Hutchifying" S&Ms by rechroming or powder coating.
Personally, I feel S&Ms look better a bit rough.
-Bill

Roy Munson · 2011-08-14 11:18am

Agree! They need to stay o.g and ridden! They are the original anti. Must be nice to be moeller right now. Having possibly thee best AMERICAN made bike co.

hockeyfox · 2011-08-14 11:21am

Yeah I think so.

Fight Club · 2011-08-14 11:21am

God I hope not I'm not spending 10k on a old beat up bike. Blame this on all the hoarders and carpet queens who don't even ride there bikes.

Cruiserific · 2011-08-14 11:25am

I LOVE S+M Bikes . simple , beautiful , efficient , useful . WORTH it!

From a Rider's perspective anyhow

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erdalicious · 2011-08-14 11:57am

i like Charlie Brown's S&M dirtbike!

bmxerpete · 2011-08-14 1:29pm

Is S&M the new Hutch? No.

S&M never went away. S&M didn't go through 10 different owners and lawsuits and namechanges. S&M is still S&M, not some new overpriced Taiwan made garbage with an old logo.

jay brand · 2011-08-14 1:31pm

Its bound to happen to a midschool rider owned company. S&M is the most popular one from that era so its not surprising that the stuff is going up in price.

Roy Munson · 2011-08-14 1:37pm

I'm talking about people wanting them. Not the business and work behind them.

77stroker2 · 2011-08-14 1:39pm

Yes Schwinn Is The New Dyno !

Roy Munson · 2011-08-14 1:40pm

And with that said. Which s&m is the "judge"

Ray · 2011-08-14 1:43pm

I collect old school and ride S& m

Ray · 2011-08-14 1:45pm

Roy Munson wrote:
And with that said. Which s&m is the "judge"

Witch ever one costs the most and rides bad lol

Ray · 2011-08-14 1:47pm

My 92 Holmes rides the best of any of my bikes

Kid718 · 2011-08-14 1:48pm

I don't know. Hutch tends to create drama, and conflict. S&M threads tend to create good vibes, and pic/info/memory sharing. I honestly cannot remember any drama started over S&M.

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socaldude · 2011-08-14 2:07pm

Kid718 wrote:
I don't know. Hutch tends to create drama, and conflict. S&M threads tend to create good vibes, and pic/info/memory sharing. I honestly cannot remember any drama started over S&M.

The S&M thread only reminds me of stuffs I don't remember. And gives me that good feeling, too. It was a big part of my coming of age in BMX going back to getting my first S&M in '89. I have definitely spent a little more than I should have on a couple of pieces but I'm cool with that.

Cruiserific · 2011-08-14 2:07pm

bmxerpete wrote:
Is S&M the new Hutch? No.

S&M never went away. S&M didn't go through 10 different owners and lawsuits and namechanges. S&M is still S&M, not some new overpriced Taiwan made garbage with an old logo.

I cant imagine jumping anything with a hutch . maybe because Im big boned... But I still cant imagine. I had a pro racer complete a few years back and ..uuhh.. well , never mind haha Just not my thing

Well Put Pete

Stoner71 · 2011-08-14 2:28pm

Back in the day, a top of the line Hutch was the price of a used car in the 80's. I never owned own because me and my racing buddies used to laugh at the " yuppie Hutch boy's " who dropped a grand on a bike that would never see dirt or a jump for that matter. Just guys who would spend all their time polishing the bike and using ArmorAll on the tires. I actually liked the bikes especially the Judge and Pro Star because it was decked out and needed no upgrades in my opinion. I dropped some coin on a Diamond Back Harry Leary Turbo and a Haro Group 1 rs! with custom wheels and pedals, but they were raced weekly from souther California to Montana.

As far as S&M goes.........I have 2 custom 38 Special builds that I spent alot of time and money and love them. They are both 2011 but have an old school look. I will buy nothing but S&M for the most part. Im working on number 3 right now. I love USA built stuff and the quality on both of mine is second to none.

77stroker2 · 2011-08-14 2:32pm

Roy Munson wrote:
And with that said. Which s&m is the "judge"

Been A Ruff Week ! Thx For The Laugh !

skirkpat · 2011-08-14 2:52pm

S&M is the exact opposite of Hutch. Hutch and the other bike Companys is what Moeller was running from in the late 80's. Are they going to bring the same money??? maybe? but not for the same reasons. Alot of bikes bring good money. Hutch is a great brand, that has been proven with the rebirth and demand of the new stuff the new owner is making. S&M is a great brand and has been commanding some of the same prices on their rarer parts .... that is the only similarity I see?

There are a few great American Company's I would say one built in Ill. is a better quality bike..but I still prefer the SoCal built S&M beauties Now sell me your Widowmaker!!!!!!!!!!

hockeyfox · 2011-08-14 2:55pm

I never thought about it that way. So now I have to say no. I never realized what Hutch stuff goes for. I just love to ride and I happen to have a lot of S&M products. Good times!

bmxerpete wrote:
Is S&M the new Hutch? No.

S&M never went away. S&M didn't go through 10 different owners and lawsuits and namechanges. S&M is still S&M, not some new overpriced Taiwan made garbage with an old logo.

Roy Munson · 2011-08-14 3:15pm

What company is built in ill?

trinwhite · 2011-08-14 3:15pm

r-reekie wrote:
My 92 Holmes rides the best of any of my bikes

Same with mine. I ride mine everyday to work, best bike to ride and i know it won't break! I collect old s&m stuff because it reminds me of my youth, growing up with my mates racing on the weekends and reading all the mags, when s&m started they brought something new to the scene with their funny ads and being rider owned and USA made seemed the bike to have, also buying f&f combo's and building them up with your mates seemed more special at the time.

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