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#1 2011-07-26 2:03am

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1978 Webco Inc.

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1978 Webco Inc.

100% original 1978 Webco

I got this bike from the original owner. It is totally original and even has Schwinn gum wall knobby's. This is my 1st Webco so I do not know that much about them. It has Sky Way Tuff Wheels too. This bike also has a Cook Bros precision bottom bracket.


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#2 2011-07-26 10:03am

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

pretty cool cool


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#3 2011-07-26 3:20pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

That bike is a 78 or 79 and not a 75:D


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#4 2011-07-26 4:26pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

g-flash wrote:

That bike is a 78 or 79 and not a 75:D

I`m not so sure about that. Did you notice the built in seat post clamp?


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#5 2011-07-26 6:02pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

The guy I got it from told me it was a 75 and he said he got in for X-Mas in 76. I saw somewhere on line that the serial number would have a 5 at the beginning if it was a 75.

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#6 2011-07-27 12:43pm

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Nope that bike was a 79 or 80 meant to be sold oversea's  I think made to be sold in the Netherlands to Pierre Racing! Webco did not keep track of dates on the bottom bracket serial #'s!


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#7 2011-07-27 1:44pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

Great thanks for the information. Any idea of value? I may have over paid.

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#8 2011-07-27 5:57pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

If it's original the parts will probably be the best indication of the year. 

I agree with the Webco Kid...not a '75.   VERY few replicas were 1975, they were done up very late in the year.   TrulyOdd and Dewabo have Replicas that I think might be '75s.

The value is really hard to tell.  Might bring a bunch one week and not much another.

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#9 2011-07-27 6:18pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

This is not a replica. For sure.

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#10 2011-07-27 7:00pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

Just to make sure we're on the same page...the Replica is a model of Webco bike that was built starting in late 1975.  I'm not saying it's not a Webco.

Is there a decal under the frame pad?


G-Flash...did the Netherlands bike have a different model name?  Scraplord mentioned the seat post clamp.  It is unusual.

Here's my Replica:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c200/Monster-Robot/IMG_0628.jpg

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#11 2011-07-27 7:53pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

Very cool bike Skatelab. cool

It's lucky for you that you already have two of the top old school Webco experts around commenting and adding knowledge to what you have. MonstorRobot and G-Flash certainly know their stuff!

I can only add to what they have said by mentioning that Tuffs never came in colors other than black in 1975.

Often the "Replica" series can be dated by studying the old catalogue pics. I have some so I'll see what I can find... Also removing the cranks or stems (if they OG to the bike) and looking for date stamps on those pieces can help pinpoint the year. The Ashtabula stuff makes that fairly easy, but I see that this bike does not have Ashtabula cranks or stem...   

Although the owner may have truly believed this bike was from 1975, it seems more like 1978 or later in my opinion... These dates can get pretty fuzzy when you are going back 30+ years!

The old Webcos can be somewhat difficult to date (other than 74's and 75's which have the telltale single head tube gussets), especially (as G-Flash pointed out) the serial numbers seem to have (as of yet), an unbreakable and undefinable series or meaning... sad

One of the things I would really love to see be discovered amongst us old school BMX collectors, is a definitive guide to Webco serial numbers... I suspect it may never happen as it may not have been designed that way, I really don't know. Then again... With some determination and time, maybe it will eventually be figured out. smile It would require some pretty huge detective work and interviews with some of the designers and owners who worked at Webco during the "golden years of BMX".


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#12 2011-07-27 8:20pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

Additionally, I'm not 100% convinced any Webcos were ever produced with drilled rear brake bridges before 1976. I also believe what some other people have posted as "1975 Webcos" aren't at all. Again, I'm no serious expert on early Webcos, but that seems to be the case at least from what I can tell. I would really enjoy hearing from others who know more...

Here's some old catalogue pics from around 1978 (don't quote me on that exact year either, but this is what I've been told). Maybe this can help a little.

One thing is for sure, Im pretty sure the stem and forks on your Webco were not stock to any catalogue models. Also, the 3-piece cranks may not have been either. It's always so damn confusing with these old Webcos... As MonstorRobot said, it would help a great deal to know what is under that top tube frame pad. If there is a decal, it would sure help to shed some light here.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh73/mongoosedrummer/L1020492-1.jpg


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#13 2011-07-27 11:24pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

Thanks everyone. I am fairly new to collecting BMX Bikes so I need all the help I can get. I do own an established Skateboard Museum in Simi Valley so I know a little bit about collecting. I am planning on displaying this bike inside Skatelab. Come for a visit!

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#14 2011-07-28 7:14am

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Skatelab, have you looked under the top tube frame pad? Is there another decal there?


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#15 2011-07-28 11:58am

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

skatelab wrote:

Thanks everyone. I am fairly new to collecting BMX Bikes so I need all the help I can get. I do own an established Skateboard Museum in Simi Valley so I know a little bit about collecting. I am planning on displaying this bike inside Skatelab. Come for a visit!

Cool...that will make a nice piece inside your shop.  smile

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#16 2011-07-29 1:30pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

No sticker under frame pad.

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#17 2011-11-15 12:47pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

many forget that back in the 70s, bike shops were like car dealers of the 70s and they did a TON of custom add-ons to change the look of
each bike sitting on the showroom floor so each bike was unique. you never saw (or i didn't) a row of bikes that looked the same with the same parts.
some had changed stems, bars, or wheels or whatever. so you wound up with a row of say 20 bikes, all being the same make, but
each being different enough to not be clones with different parts and marked with a different price.

your webco looks like a 76 or later model. if he got it for Xmas in 76, its most likely an early 77 model.
the 76 model i had BiTD was a replica but did not have the top decal on it.

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#18 2011-11-15 1:27pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

Integrated seat post clamp, that's not something a bike shop adds.  I'm with G-Flash....'79 or '80 Non-US bike.

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#19 2011-11-15 3:13pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

true, but my reply had to do with this statement -

One thing is for sure, Im pretty sure the stem and forks on your Webco were not stock to any catalogue models

the catalog only argument for whats correct on a bike is something ive always thought of as weak.

it also looks like it has a MCS stem.

besides, ive never seen a webco with an integrated seatpost (and ive had 4 of them). you sure its factory and not something added by a owner ?
... maybe to fix a crack or something.

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#20 2011-11-15 3:43pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

Yes, it's the Non-US bike, US bikes will have the normal post clamp setup.  G-Flash is the Webco expert.  Maybe he'll post up a little more info.  Unfortunately I don't have any documentation to post. 

I agree that catalog pictures are only one of many ways to ID a bike.   But sometimes dating the parts is all you have to go with...

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#21 2011-11-15 3:58pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

love the red cool


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#22 2011-12-01 3:35pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

Monster-Robot wrote:

Yes, it's the Non-US bike, US bikes will have the normal post clamp setup.  G-Flash is the Webco expert.  Maybe he'll post up a little more info.  Unfortunately I don't have any documentation to post. 

I agree that catalog pictures are only one of many ways to ID a bike.   But sometimes dating the parts is all you have to go with...

oh thats cool. i just never saw one like this before. thanks for the info, learn something new almost everyday here smile


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#23 2012-09-01 8:01pm

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

I just got a 76 webco from a friend who is the original owner.I have not recieved it in person,But the deal is done and I also was wondering how much they are worth.It  has the magnesium mags and looks pretty good for a 30 plus year old bike.The guy I got the bike from as a SE Team rider in the late 70s and says its us made and I believe him due to he is not your avg, joe who just happened to have a nice bike.But,Reading G-flash and the experts on here,I would like to have a ball park value,like a wore case and best case condition wise.Ill post pics as soon as it gets here.Thanks for anyones time who can give me a round about idea on how much it is worth.


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#24 2014-03-10 1:45am

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Re: 1978 Webco Inc.

giant also made a frameset that looks identical to the webco only difference is the webco has a square brake bridge and the giant has a round brake bridge

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae96/tych09/IMG_5739_zpsfcb10c7a.jpg

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