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#1 2007-12-06 3:02am

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Old School, Mid School, New School??

Hi everyone,

I have been looking around the forums, but could not find an answer to this:
Are there roughly any dates/years or definitions for what is Old School, Mid School, and New School? And is this based on the evolution of BMX bikes/parts etc. or on the evolution of tricks for the various BMX disciplines?
I have certainly noticed that since when I first started back in the mid 90s bikes have changed a lot, so has the preference and evolution of some of the tricks, mainly due to changes in BMX design.
Also, is there a difference between, in terms of time spans, to what happened State-side compared to Europe, since BMXing did not really take off here until the 80s?
So, if anyone can bring some light on the matter the haggishunter will be a very happy chappy.

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#2 2007-12-06 9:01am

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

that is up for debate every time it comes up.  I would also say it changes as time goes by.   My time line is: Old school= '89 - back
           Mid School= '90-2000
           New School= 2001-

but again, every one will have different opinions


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#3 2008-01-04 6:20pm

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old school is a feeling smile


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#4 2008-01-04 6:50pm

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if it was made before alot of you were born......it's Ole' Skool.


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#5 2008-01-04 7:20pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

jjvh66 wrote:

if it was made before alot of you were born......it's Ole' Skool.

I'll second that.......lol


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#6 2008-02-08 10:51pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

80sbikedude wrote:

jjvh66 wrote:

if it was made before alot of you were born......it's Ole' Skool.

I'll second that.......lol

I'll third that

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#7 2008-02-19 12:30pm

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4th lol

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#8 2008-02-19 12:35pm

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I will 5th that one! LOL big_smile

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#9 2008-02-19 12:45pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

pjcruiser wrote:

that is up for debate every time it comes up.  I would also say it changes as time goes by.   My time line is: Old school= '89 - back
           Mid School= '90-2000
           New School= 2001-

but again, every one will have different opinions

Exactly the way I define it.


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#10 2008-02-19 1:19pm

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I think old school is any bike made when (male) singers wore more make-up with bigger hair then girls do today and when the bikes were colored like Easter Eggs. I think Nirvana did more then change music I think the day that the album Nevermind was released was the day that basicly changed the gaurd over to the next generation. Now if you excuse me I've got to go find my Duran Duran tape smile

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#11 2008-05-27 10:42pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

pjcruiser wrote:

that is up for debate every time it comes up.  I would also say it changes as time goes by.   My time line is: Old school= '89 - back
           Mid School= '90-2000
           New School= 2001-

but again, every one will have different opinions

But what happens in 10 years time, new school will no longer be new, will there be new,new school, or will the current new school become part of mid school? Or will current mid school become part of old school?
Current new school bikes are already vastly different to what was around in 2001.

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#12 2008-06-26 12:46am

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

old school is a feeling

that's why nothing is really defined, because a lot of it IS "just a feeling." everyone perceived what went on with BMX from a different point of view. That's why it's so difficult to define exactly what years what "old school" refers to, and "mid school," etc. Sometimes what was happening on the east coast was not exactly the same thing as on the west coast, for example.


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#13 2008-08-19 12:03pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

if you ask the guys who were there when it started (like Rick T.) old school is pre 1980, and the 80s were mid school.  i don't think there's a true "right" answer

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#14 2008-08-19 4:58pm

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hop in...we'll go find out

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#15 2008-10-05 5:42am

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If your bike can withstand an Abomb then chance's are your on a mid school ride.


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#16 2008-10-05 6:26am

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

Mr PPV THC wrote:

If your bike can withstand an Abomb then chance's are your on a mid school ride.

I like that answer, Old School Is just too old.

and new school stuff is all flimsy.


Mid School is where its at.


If your bike gets ran over by a tank, and then gets stolen, its a mid-School bike.

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#17 2008-10-05 7:00am

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

I agee with so much that has been said on this thread. Mid School was born when main steam bike co. started dumping their money into mountain bikes and the smaller companies(hardcore companies) built bikes that could take massive ammounts of abuse. S&M, Homeless, Hoffman and Standard came out swinging and knocked the teeth out of the main stream BMX companies.


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#18 2008-10-12 10:27pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

skinnygmg wrote:

if you ask the guys who were there when it started (like Rick T.) old school is pre 1980, and the 80s were mid school.  i don't think there's a true "right" answer

what about breaking it up by technology ? thats how im seeing it.

old school is the old standard bicycles have been using for decades.
this tech. climaxed around the late 80s with the racing BMX.
they are fast, light, strong, nimble little machines. 

mid school was when these long standing standards evolved beyond
the existing rule book.

threadless forks, small drive sprockets, multi wall rims, 48 spoke hubs,
brake tabs and cable guides on extreme duty frames, and more
changed the look, feel, character, and weight of these bikes greatly.

they became different animals.

mid school was also when everything turned drab and emo.
the opposite of the miami vice themed freestyle years.

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#19 2008-10-28 8:01am

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

HMMMM....

Old school: caliper brakes

Mid school: center pull/V brakes

New school: NO brakes

lol

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#20 2008-10-28 5:46pm

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Maybe it could be determined by frame material?


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#21 2008-10-31 1:02pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

OLD SCHOOL in the UK has got to be 82 - 86 .............then we all turned 17 and got cars to drive around in cool


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#22 2009-06-10 10:02pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

for me if you love aparijo, fiola, itson, dominguez etc..

and can do cherry picker, endos,miami hopper more the than new style now then your

an old schooler from the 80'slol


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#23 2009-06-10 10:10pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

+1
You know you're old school when you do a bar endo on Sunday and call in sick to work on Monday.  lol

superbike wrote:

for me if you love aparijo, fiola, itson, dominguez etc..

and can do cherry picker, endos,miami hopper more the than new style now then your

an old schooler from the 80'slol


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#24 2009-06-20 3:09pm

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80 - 87 oldschool
88 - 94 BMX is dead / golden age
94 - ?? X games era
?? - i hope soon   niuschool aka do a tailwhip, win a contest

this is how i would brake it up. and i hope next change will come soon. i used to say that we are back in the 80s' but back then they had 101 freestyle tricks. now all you can see is tailwhip and 360. AGGROMAN! we need you once more!

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#25 2009-09-16 12:46pm

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Re: Old School, Mid School, New School??

when rick molinterno left haro and started standard it all changed. he said it him self, i was breaking haros once a week, so he left and made bikes that u cant break, i remember those days, u had to have a few frames because u knew that it was just a mater of time before the haro or gt u had that was made for doing nori stops and things like that just wouldnt hold up to a smith grind or or any grinds. i remember having to go down to the local auto shop and find huge washers to put behind my pegs because if i didnt there would be nothing left of my dropouts and my axles. another funney thing, the other day i was at the bike shop and the twin top tube frame is comming back. i think it is awsome. i am getting one soon. so I.E.i think the tricks and bike capabilites define the eras. and in the end it is all going to make a huge circle and come back to the roots


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