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#1 2011-01-30 4:39pm

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Motomag II's

Ok BMX friends...I got a set of Motomag II's. The rear is a coaster brake mag. It didn't have any guts when I got it. I thought I could just throw a Bendix 76 setup in there and be done. Nothing fit!!! I took it to the bike shop where an old schooler like me was the mechanic and it stumped him too. hmm  Anyone else run into this problem. Is there a rebuild kit somewhere for these? Any help would be great!!

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#2 2011-01-30 4:47pm

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could be a shimano b type coaster brake too . they used both  bendix 76 and the shimanos .


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#3 2011-01-30 4:51pm

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Re: Motomag II's

1966bmx wrote:

could be a shimano b type coaster brake too . they used both  bendix 76 and the shimanos .

Yes this is true, it could be shimano(since it's not bendix)......unless it had the factory freewheel setup.
Then you need to get the exact same internals for that!


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#4 2011-01-30 7:53pm

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Re: Motomag II's

Walter, did you pick these up at the swap meet? Just curious. I had a set, that I could never figure out. Tried several different Shimano and Bendix hubs, but none of them worked. I posted pics back when I was trying, but never got a solid answer.


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#5 2011-01-30 8:00pm

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itsdug wrote:

Walter, did you pick these up at the swap meet? Just curious. I had a set, that I could never figure out. Tried several different Shimano and Bendix hubs, but none of them worked. I posted pics back when I was trying, but never got a solid answer.

I was wondering about something.....how different the factory freewheel motomags are on the inside, compared to the bendix and the shimano's motomags with coaster brakes?

Do you think that's your problem "itsdug" or this guy Walter is having?


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#6 2011-01-30 8:07pm

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Re: Motomag II's

I had two without guts. One was a factory free-wheel set up, the other wasn't.

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss4/itsdug1/Motomag%20Hubs/4.jpg
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss4/itsdug1/Motomag%20Hubs/3.jpg

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss4/itsdug1/Motomag%20Hubs/2.jpg
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss4/itsdug1/Motomag%20Hubs/1.jpg


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#7 2011-01-30 8:14pm

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Maybe it is a front???


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#8 2011-01-30 8:17pm

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I'm guessing/praying that Walter knows the difference!


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#9 2011-01-30 8:17pm

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Okay......so the 1st 2 pics are the factory freewheel & hub insert.

The 3rd and the 4th, especially the 4th?
Your hub(4th pic brakearm side) has those splines and I know I've seem them before(like an after market repair or something special).

This almost makes me curious and want to break down and disassemble my wheels.


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#10 2011-01-30 8:24pm

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Here is a Shimano D-Type

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss4/itsdug1/Motomag%20Hubs/4-1.jpg


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#11 2011-01-30 8:38pm

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Re: Motomag II's

The 2 coaster hubs have mildly different insides. One is a straight through, and the other has a bit of a conical reduction on one side.

I'm pretty sure the conical inside is the Shimano, but, don't count on that anymore. But, if you tried Bendix without luck, Shimano should be your solution.

Bendix 70 and 76 are basically interchangeable, so, if one doesn't work, don't think the other will solve it.

Also, the shoes on the Shimano have mild ridges on the interior circumference. If they are inserted with that ridge on the inside instead of the out, the wheel won't work right.


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#12 2011-01-30 8:44pm

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Re: Motomag II's

itsdug wrote:

Here is a Shimano D-Type

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss4/ … bs/4-1.jpg

Out of my 4 sets of motomags, I only have 2 sets accessible which are both bendix 76's.
one of my other sets is factory freewheel, I'm notsure what the other is(as both are boxed up).

I glanced around on my other wheel sets(spoked and maged).....the 4th pic you have posted is similar to my red stone mags which have a splined insert in them also(the splines on my redstones seem smaller though).


I'm looking for the following frames, frame & forks or completes by BMX products:
MotoTrac (nickle or chrome), Racer-X or a Super-X (with the double gussets).
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#13 2011-01-30 8:48pm

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Re: Motomag II's

markmc97225 wrote:

The 2 coaster hubs have mildly different insides. One is a straight through, and the other has a bit of a conical reduction on one side.

I'm pretty sure the conical inside is the Shimano, but, don't count on that anymore. But, if you tried Bendix without luck, Shimano should be your solution.

Bendix 70 and 76 are basically interchangeable, so, if one doesn't work, don't think the other will solve it.

Also, the shoes on the Shimano have mild ridges on the interior circumference. If they are inserted with that ridge on the inside instead of the out, the wheel won't work right.

What about the suntour rear coaster brake hubs?
Do you know anything about these?
Do you think there is a chance that could be a possible solution for these guys?
Do you know when they come out with suntour coaster brake hubs(im guessing this is early-mid '80's...right)?

Last edited by johnng23604 (2011-01-30 8:49pm)


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MotoTrac (nickle or chrome), Racer-X or a Super-X (with the double gussets).
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#14 2011-01-30 8:52pm

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The Suntour wouldn't fit the splined hub either.


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#15 2011-01-30 9:02pm

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Re: Motomag II's

itsdug wrote:

The Suntour wouldn't fit the splined hub either.

Okay, so you've tried Bendix 76, shimano and suntour?

Ummm what haven't you tried?


I'm looking for the following frames, frame & forks or completes by BMX products:
MotoTrac (nickle or chrome), Racer-X or a Super-X (with the double gussets).
Thanks wink
I'm also johnng23604 at "Retro-goose", "VintageBMX" & "RADbmx"

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#16 2011-01-30 9:05pm

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Yes, tried all three and I gave up. Sold it, and I'm kind of thinking that's the wheel he ended up with. The Nor-Cal world is a small one!


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#17 2011-01-30 9:13pm

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Re: Motomag II's

itsdug wrote:

Yes, tried all three and I gave up. Sold it, and I'm kind of thinking that's the wheel he ended up with. The Nor-Cal world is a small one!

Hummm, I wonder if those mags ended up(tore up internally) and with a different hub insert pressed into them for a lester mag, rovan mag, mx-60, redstone mag or something?


I'm looking for the following frames, frame & forks or completes by BMX products:
MotoTrac (nickle or chrome), Racer-X or a Super-X (with the double gussets).
Thanks wink
I'm also johnng23604 at "Retro-goose", "VintageBMX" & "RADbmx"

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#18 2011-01-30 9:37pm

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Re: Motomag II's

Hey Dug, looks like I have the Shimano D type since there are no splines on the exterior flanges. I got the mags from a stagehand. They were red when I got 'em ( if that makes a difference). He couldn't remember what went in it and gave me a another rim with a Bendix 76 thinking that would fit. The mechanic I took it to today said it's definitely a coaster mag.....It's pissin me off cause its  the last piece to a sweet lower gusset 76 Goose I'm building.
  Thanks for all the feedback!!

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#19 2011-01-30 9:39pm

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Shouldn't be too hard to find the Shimano. Can't wait to see the finished product.


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#20 2011-01-30 9:51pm

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Sounds like you got it figured out then Romano916, well.....good luck to ya both then.


I'm looking for the following frames, frame & forks or completes by BMX products:
MotoTrac (nickle or chrome), Racer-X or a Super-X (with the double gussets).
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#21 2011-01-31 2:49am

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Re: Motomag II's

Just for extra info here, This is my Shimano hubbed MMII. Note the splines.
and I have a few spares for D type Shimanos. This is whats inside my MMII's.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/coastvl/bike%20bits/31012011102.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/coastvl/bike%20bits/31012011100.jpg


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#22 2011-01-31 4:29am

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Re: Motomag II's

Thanks Coasty and everyone else!! I think I'm on the right track now!!

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#23 2011-01-31 7:50am

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Re: Motomag II's

romano916 wrote:

Thanks Coasty and everyone else!! I think I'm on the right track now!!

Did someone say track? Had a great time riding with you at Elkhorn. cool Hope you get this figured out Walt. Cant wait to see the goose finished!


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#24 2011-01-31 7:28pm

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I found the parts that fit! turns out I had then all along some times it pays off too be a pack rat lol


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#25 2011-01-31 8:10pm

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what worked . shimano ?


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