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1985 Mongoose Californian 
#1 2006-09-22 8:46am
1985 Mongoose Californian
1985 Mongoose Californian
REG-GIE!! REG-GIE!!
1985 Mongoose Californian. After much research in the forums, I can say that now. I'm going to try to keep this one as original as I can. This should be good news to the "purists" that saw my 87 Performer and cringed. HAHA. Restoring bikes has become so addictive that the owner of the local bike shop offered me a job because I was in there all of the time. Two words: EMPLOYEE DISCOUNT!
FRAME: 1985 Mongoose Californian
FORKS: 1985 Mongoose Californian; 4130 Chromoly
STEM: SR MS-422; 1” threaded
HANDLEBAR: Mongoose
GRIPS: Mongoose Team grips
HEADSET: Mongoose stamped; 1” threaded
CRANKS: Bulletproof; 180mm
PEDALS: VP Bear Traps; 1/2"
CHAINRING: Takagi; 44T
CONNECTION DISK: Pro Class
CHAIN: K710 Kool Chain; 1/2" x 1/8"
FREEWHEEL: Suntour; 16T
RIMS: Pro Class II; 36H; 20x1.75
HUBS: SR; 36H; 3/8” axles
TIRES: Cheng Shin Comp III type; 20x1.75
SEAT:
POST: Pro Class laid back; 22.6mm
CLAMP: MX
BRAKES: Lee Chi MX 901 type
BRAKE LEVERS: Lee Chi Tech III type
WTB: 1/2" NOS, white, plastic pedals | NOS white Odyssey RX-3 locking levers (F+R)
Some people need to get down off of their crosses, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!!
The Unchained Sprocket
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#2 2006-09-22 3:53pm
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
Dude, I'm from Biloxi........Is there a local bike shop in the city that deals with old school bmx or even knows anything about it? I found what you said interesting about additive behavoir toBMX....I get it...I am 36 and have built four bikes in the last two months. Late 70's early 80's mongoose / supergoose...I decided to check into only after seeing my bike i had as a kid growing up...2nd year Monggose California, i guess that would be an 84, in the attic in my mothers house ...Al this after cleaning up after huricane.
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#3 2006-09-22 6:04pm
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
mcater, I know it sounds a little biased but the owner of the shop I work at (Westbank Cyclery) knows damn near everything you could want to know. The only bad thing is no old school parts. There just isn't that much of a demand for it in the area. But the reason I always went to that shop was that he knew what the heck I was talking about. Most of the "kids" at the other shops probably never owned a BMX bike with a 1" threaded fork. And the older guys were just a bunch of road geeks trying to sell you a $2000 road bike so they could pay the rent. Or even worse . . . a hybrid. BLEEECCCHHHHH. Sorry, I just threw up a little.
You should try to restore the '84 Cali if you haven't already. Restoring is addictive. A passion. If it wasn't, this site wouldn't be here.
Sorry about your mom's house. I sort of know how that feels. My aunt and uncle HAD a house in Waveland two miles from the beach. It used to be my grandparent's house. Spent many a summer there.
WTB: 1/2" NOS, white, plastic pedals | NOS white Odyssey RX-3 locking levers (F+R)
Some people need to get down off of their crosses, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!!
The Unchained Sprocket
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#4 2006-10-05 4:41am
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
I am nothing short of amazed about the Old School BMX craze. Now I bought my first new bike and it was an 84 Mongoose Expert. The Cali was a totally different bike. Heck I just came across my receipt and Goose catalogue I got from the bike shop. Cali all 4130 including forks. Expert not all 4130. Steel back hoops and forks. Both has same bars, wheels etc but the necks were different. SR std on cali and some kind of generic 4 bolt on the expert. I will write more later must read!!
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#5 2006-10-05 7:06am
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
Comay boy you hit the nail on the head with the new craze of bike shop workers. The shop by me has loads of knowledge but someone came in a few years back and cleaned them out of most of the old school stuff. Both of the owners ( they are brothers ) used to race at the track here. They actually gave me one of the old plates off the wall of the shop for one of my builds. Cool guys.
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#6 2006-10-05 8:50am
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
Thanks for the info AZGOOSE. The seat tube decal was removed on my frame so I don't know exactly what it is. Is there any way to tell by the serial #? It has a "generic" stem on it so I can assume that it's an Expert. Anymore info that you could pass on will be greatly appreciated.
djdane, my statement about shop workers is sad but true. The old school shops and shop guys appear to be a dying breed. I was out riding one day and my cranks started creaking. I stopped in a shop and asked if I could borrow an allen wrench. The guy told me he'd have to write a repair order and charge me! Charge me? To do it myself? _____________! <---- insert explative(s) here. That particual shop is out of business now. Gee, I wonder why?
WTB: 1/2" NOS, white, plastic pedals | NOS white Odyssey RX-3 locking levers (F+R)
Some people need to get down off of their crosses, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!!
The Unchained Sprocket
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#7 2006-10-09 6:53am
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
Hey I cannot tell you an acurate way of telling 4130 from the steel. Anyone help?? Brake levers are correct for both Cali and Expert. The Expert came with the generic plastic pedals that were colored like the pad set and tires were. The nice SR ones you have came on the Cali. Grips are correct for both models. Your chain ring and sprocket are Expert also. Expert came with a 2 piece unit but was not the pro class like the cali. Those are pro class 2 wheels right?? Expert came std. with those and the cali had the option of the pro class 3 wheels. Confused yet? I remember reading either BMX Plus or Action and they had the Expert reveiw like in 84. Thats how I found the Expert that I did buy. My neighbor bought the Cali and I could not afford it. 50 bucks more and that was alot of cash back then for me doing yard work! In that issue the centerfold was Eric Rupe riding his white Eric Rupe Signiture Edition Pro Class bike. I took it out of the mag and hung it on my wall till I moved out of my folks house. I still want that bike!!! Pro-class 3 wheels, white fram and fork. I wish I could remember exactly where it came from. During my marriage, (now divorced), my wife trashed that stuff! Hope I helped ya and help me also!! I want5 that white Rupe and I also need a set of chrome goose forks 4130 of course!-Mike
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#8 2006-10-09 7:39pm
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
comay, the s/n should start MC5 for a cali. the expert will be something like MCE5 or ME5. post it and we'll figure it out.
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#9 2006-10-09 8:42pm
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
AZGOOSE, thanks for the info. I have a Pro Class disk and ring coming. I don't know if the wheels are 2's or 3's. After the magnet test, I have 2's. If I find out any info for you I'll be sure to pass it on.
skinnygmg, looks like an Expert
Last edited by comay (2006-10-15 8:07am)
WTB: 1/2" NOS, white, plastic pedals | NOS white Odyssey RX-3 locking levers (F+R)
Some people need to get down off of their crosses, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!!
The Unchained Sprocket
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#10 2006-10-09 8:44pm
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#11 2006-10-09 9:02pm
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
Thanks guys. This site is a cornucopia of knowledge.
WTB: 1/2" NOS, white, plastic pedals | NOS white Odyssey RX-3 locking levers (F+R)
Some people need to get down off of their crosses, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!!
The Unchained Sprocket
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#12 2006-10-09 9:09pm
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
AZGOOSE, (or anyone else) how do you tell the difference between the pro class 2 and 3 wheels? i didn't know there were different generations of these.
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#13 2006-10-09 9:12pm
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
I found a Pro Class III in the shop that I work at (it's been sold). The only thing that I saw differnet was a "Pro Class III" sticker around the valve stem hole and a black anno finish.
WTB: 1/2" NOS, white, plastic pedals | NOS white Odyssey RX-3 locking levers (F+R)
Some people need to get down off of their crosses, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT!!!!
The Unchained Sprocket
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#14 2006-10-10 4:16am
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
Pro 1 wheels are steel with the holes like the others. Pro 2 wheels are alloy (aluminum) and both have the shiny finish. Pro 3 wheels are alloy also and I want to say graphite but I am unsure at ths time. They were supposed to be stronger and not any heaveir then the pro 2 wheels. The main difference is the color. Pro 3 wheels look black/grey. They also had hollow 4130 axles if my memory serves me correct. Man you guys are makin me think hard here!
-Mike
I STILL NEED SOME FORKS! CHROME ONES!!!
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#15 2006-10-10 6:04am
Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
I believe pro class 3 are hard annodized. thats why that blackish/gunmetal grayish color. Yeah if you take a magnet to them. If it sticks you got 1's, if they are silver and it don't yep it's 2's and if they are anno they are 3. Also the 1's are heavier.
Last edited by djdane (2006-10-10 6:04am)
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#18 2007-01-07 8:49pm
- SpeedFreakZX12
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Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
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#19 2007-04-05 8:32pm
- dreadlocktom
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Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
my proclass wheels were grey anno finish and i believe they are III's. they are on a 85 cali
the only thing i'm good at is riding this bike
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#21 2008-02-13 6:14pm
- DoubleXXElf
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Re: 1985 Mongoose Californian
This was one of my childhood bikes and I have to say this one is a masterpiece. You could not have done a better job here, Nicest Mongoose in the museum dude, way to go!
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