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#1 2010-06-17 12:13pm

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exactly what does "NOS" mean?

this has nothing to do with any transactions i have had on here but 1/2 of my ebay "NOS" purchases have showed up in definately mounted and used condition.  and i love the "may have some light shelf wear" description.  what is that?  i have things i have been holding onto for very long and they have no "shelf wear".  i mean, at least let me know if your shelves are made of concrete, asphalt, or dirt.
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#2 2010-06-17 12:15pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

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#3 2010-06-17 12:16pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

NOS = new old stock : new part from back in the day.  that does not necessarily mean its in brand new condition. sometimes they can have shelf wear or storage wear.


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#4 2010-06-17 12:19pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

Next time ask if its in mint/perfect condition. No wear, damage, or marks of any kind.  cool

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#5 2010-06-17 12:32pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

it stands for Nitrous Oxide Something i forgot.

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#6 2010-06-17 12:35pm

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#7 2010-06-17 12:37pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

NOS means it's new, which means unused. However, if it's been put on a show bike, yet never ridden, many folks, museum included, still consider it new, as it wasn't ridden, just shown off. Thus, now there is the term we see here now, NOS/Show Mounted. And show mounted is definitely different than shelf wear. But, if someone built a bike at a shop, then, tore it down, and boxed it up, I think there is a case to consider the item new still. Thus, it opens the door for a mounted part to be considered new.

It's a nasty fine line. This discussion topic I think comes up every 2-4 months.

But, "only out of package for pics", and "never mounted" are things I love to see from sellers to clarify.


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#8 2010-06-17 1:00pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

markmc97225 wrote:

NOS means it's new, which means unused. However, if it's been put on a show bike, yet never ridden, many folks, museum included, still consider it new, as it wasn't ridden, just shown off. Thus, now there is the term we see here now, NOS/Show Mounted. And show mounted is definitely different than shelf wear. But, if someone built a bike at a shop, then, tore it down, and boxed it up, I think there is a case to consider the item new still. Thus, it opens the door for a mounted part to be considered new.

It's a nasty fine line. This discussion topic I think comes up every 2-4 months.

But, "only out of package for pics", and "never mounted" are things I love to see from sellers to clarify.

thanks, i have learned a lesson.  its just frustrating to try and build something in new condition while buying "NOS" and either having to return them or buy them twice.  i will ask from now on.  i just recieved an "NOS" gyro that had a chrome cup, chrome gyro, and a black upper piece that was scraped (from concrete)  on both ends where the cable goes in.  and also a circular scratch from mounting, i dont care about this one as it wont show when installed.  i dont even care if it was installed, but when i see "NOS", i think "NEW".  this was definately not either and definately not "shelf wear".  i also bought a set of "NOS" wheels that had a freewheel mounted and there was caked up grease/dirt behind it.  to me, this isnt NOS or NEW.  i didnt care though, the wheels were real nice with minor "shelf wear".  the gyro though, i have to buy another one.
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#9 2010-06-17 1:21pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

it means that it was never used but is old stock.

i had a problem with a member here who was under the impression that "nos" meant "gem mint".

even though i showed several pictures of the shelf wear and described it in detail he still went nuts because the wheels were not gem mint.

remember that the reason most "nos" items were not sold was that there was something amiss with the item and thus it did not sell. (missing decal or hardware, slightly scratched or bent, color being off etc....)


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#10 2010-06-17 2:47pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

vintage chromoly wrote:

it means that it was never used but is old stock.

i had a problem with a member here who was under the impression that "nos" meant "gem mint".

even though i showed several pictures of the shelf wear and described it in detail he still went nuts because the wheels were not gem mint.

remember that the reason most "nos" items were not sold was that there was something amiss with the item and thus it did not sell. (missing decal or hardware, slightly scratched or bent, color being off etc....)

Gem mint.....The word that made me hate my baseball card collection.  cool

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#11 2010-06-17 3:08pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

vintage chromoly wrote:

it means that it was never used but is old stock.

i had a problem with a member here who was under the impression that "nos" meant "gem mint".

even though i showed several pictures of the shelf wear and described it in detail he still went nuts because the wheels were not gem mint.

remember that the reason most "nos" items were not sold was that there was something amiss with the item and thus it did not sell. (missing decal or hardware, slightly scratched or bent, color being off etc....)

some of the NOS items are damaged floor models and returns that are now being sold as new.i think the members selling parts that have been mounted as NOS are ridiculous.

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#12 2010-06-19 9:53pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

NEW OLD STOCK

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#13 2010-06-19 11:31pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

Loosely interpreted on this site.

NOS, Nicks Or Scratches, but installed for show.


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#14 2010-06-20 12:09am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

Because parts are not registered like cars are its hard to define . To me it means you brought it from a shop or you brought it from someone who used to own a shop and has surplus stock sitting around or you got it from a manufacturer that had stock sitting around . 2nd hand parts are just that 2nd hand . Even if new they have still passed through someone's hands with $ transactions then they are no longer nos. Things can still be 2nd hand in new condition . But people can also say 2nd hand new things are nos and there the great debate begins


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#15 2010-06-20 6:21am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

badbill wrote:

vintage chromoly wrote:

it means that it was never used but is old stock.

i had a problem with a member here who was under the impression that "nos" meant "gem mint".

even though i showed several pictures of the shelf wear and described it in detail he still went nuts because the wheels were not gem mint.

remember that the reason most "nos" items were not sold was that there was something amiss with the item and thus it did not sell. (missing decal or hardware, slightly scratched or bent, color being off etc....)

some of the NOS items are damaged floor models and returns that are now being sold as new.i think the members selling parts that have been mounted as NOS are ridiculous.

i do too bill. the rims i had still had the price tags on but had "shelf wear", which is to be expected.


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#16 2010-06-20 6:54am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

From what I can tell, it means "New Old Scratched" smile

Christian and I will argue this forever - but I contend NOS does not denote condition - it just tells you:

1. It's never been used
2. It's old (I use 10 years as the cut off - must be older than 10 years)

But the condition can vary - from very dirty with scratches, oxidation/rust, etc. to actually looking like it was manufactured yesterday.

I think one thing those with unrealistic expectations about the condition of an NOS part need to remember is many of these parts didn't show up at the bike shop in perfect condition. Anodized brake sets were all thrown in a bag together, metal touching metal, so there are always small nicks, marks, etc. Forks were just put in a plastic bag and stacked like firewood in a box.  These parts were expected to be mounted and ridden, not displayed in someone's livingroom 30 years later.

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#17 2010-06-20 7:18am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

Yes you are right porkchops but don't forget, back in the 80's if you walked into a bike shop to buy a bike & on display it had a dirty great scratch on it, you would have asked for a pretty hefty discount wouldn't you?! lol You wouldn't expect to pay top dollar then & you shouldn't now. NOS should mean new & very close to flawless. Anything worse is taking the piss & significant marks/flaws mean it should be described as excellent only.

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#18 2011-11-26 5:28pm

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

Glad someone asked . big_smile big_smile This was messing with me. I'm pretty good at acronyms .


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#19 2011-12-26 3:00am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

nasty is nate wrote:

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#20 2011-12-26 3:17am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

nasty is nate wrote:

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#21 2011-12-26 3:17am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

Sorry for double-post. Internet froze)

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#22 2012-02-28 10:58am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

NEW OLD SCHOOL? neutral

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#23 2012-02-28 11:02am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

Its a word that posers use to sell their overpriced parts.  roll


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#24 2012-02-28 11:11am

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#25 2012-02-28 11:20am

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Re: exactly what does "NOS" mean?

Porkchopzz4 wrote:

NOS does not denote condition - it just tells you:

1. It's never been used
2. It's old (I use 10 years as the cut off - must be older than 10 years)

But the condition can vary - from very dirty with scratches, oxidation/rust, etc. to actually looking like it was manufactured yesterday.

Exactly.  NOS doesn't really mean anything, especially because it's such an over-used and abused term.  I'd rather have "used-mint" than "NOS-scratched/dropped/shelf weared/ etc."


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