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OK, so i picked up a Jap made Trickstar a while ago and it comes with a set of "Mike D" bars .. although they are not, i know they are not but they are already on the bike so i still take them. Anyway, i have been looking at these and it crossed my mind they may be Woody Itson's!!
They have had a thinner lower cross bar welded on after factory to make them look like Mike D's but the welds are terrible. The shape without the lower cross bar kinda looks like Woody's, especialy at the bottom near the clamp area.

width - 28 1/4"
Top crossbar width - 10 3/4" (top of bar, weld to weld)
Height - 6 1/2" (very bottom of clamp bar to very top of top cross bar)

Whats your thoughts guys...?!

Last edited by wildon (2009-11-07 3:27am)

SPOAlowairchamp · 2009-11-07 5:22am

The shape looks right

wildon · 2009-11-07 11:27am

restoredperfection · 2009-11-07 11:32am

no telling what they but the are welded to look like mike d bars

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Brian P · 2009-11-07 11:33am

something fishy about the welds on the lower cross bar

BMX*Racer*1983 · 2009-11-07 11:34am

Brian P wrote:
something fishy about the welds on the lower cross bar

+1 on that I was thinking the same

wildon · 2009-11-07 11:35am

restoredperfection wrote:
no they are mike d bars

no they ain't, I have both types of mike d bars and these ain't the same. Those defo ain't hutch welds on that bottom cross bar

wildon · 2009-11-08 12:05pm

Anyone got a set of Woddy's they could measure and compare?

NBKA-SENSEI · 2009-11-08 12:19pm

That lower bars has been added after tha fact, the weld does not look "right" because it was done by some one with alot less experiance in welding, compared to the person that welded the top bar into place that is.
I guarntee you the same person did not weld those two bars!
Look how tight and smooth the top weld it, the bottom is choppy, been started and stopped a few times.

In having my frames built, I have been to alot of welder's, and have seen some extreamly great and some really bad out of the same shop. All depends on who's welding.
I ended up going with Brew and Super Cross.
My theory is, some one had some hutch/Profile bars, and brought them to a local weld shop or did it themselfs in the garage, had them welded then powder coated, added decals and called them Woody's.... But thats just a guess.

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wildon · 2009-11-08 12:45pm

It seems they have tried to pass them off as Mike D's ... but i'm thinking they were Woody's .. be if thats right! the lower cross bar will be coming off

TODD74 · 2009-11-08 12:48pm

looks like woody bars with a hack weld bottom bar job. get out the grinder and bring em back to life, not a hard fix at all, or have someone fix the weld job,looks like JB weld.

wildon · 2009-11-10 9:21am

Anyone got a set they can measure?!

oldsklHaro · 2009-11-10 9:33am

Hmmmmm, I believe the top cross bar on Woody bars is 8" from center of bottom clamp bar to center of cross bar.....................

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chromey · 2009-11-10 9:50am

They look like Woody's to me - the right shape.... but like you said - with a middle cross bar added afterwards to make them look like Mike D bars.

Interesting concept. They're not bad looking. but since the top bar on Woody bars is lower. it does look a little crowded in there.

Looks like your stem clamp area is pinched pretty good too. Might not be worth all the work to remove the middle bar. Since the crimping isn't ideal. If I had them, i'd just save them as a novelty. Probably not mount them to a bike.

chromey · 2009-11-10 9:51am

oldsklHaro wrote:
Hmmmmm, I believe the top cross bar on Woody bars is 8" from center of bottom clamp bar to center of cross bar.....................

Mostly, I have (and had) a few sets of OG woody bars with factory paint and decals. (one of my favorites) and they're all slightly different shaped. Very hand made looking bars when you get down to comparing them. About as consistently shaped as the trick star frames...

boxline69 · 2009-11-10 10:02am

Decent info here-

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=13507

xtremevert · 2009-11-10 10:03am

Brian P wrote:
something fishy about the welds on the lower cross bar

The welds on the bottom aren't brazed welds they are mig welds that why they look different.

boxline69 · 2009-11-10 10:06am

Hell those welds almost look stick welded

benjimanactivate · 2009-11-10 10:08am

xtremevert wrote:
Brian P wrote:
something fishy about the welds on the lower cross bar
The welds on the bottom aren't brazed welds they are mig welds that why they look different.

I agree..MIG welds seem to "pop" up more. I do a lot of MIG welding and that always frustrates me LOL A good TIG weld will be embedded and get good penetration.

Last edited by benjimanactivate (2009-11-10 10:08am)

xtremevert · 2009-11-10 10:10am

boxline69 wrote:
Hell those welds almost look stick welded

To get the kind of weld on the top bar from factory on a mig welder you need to preheat the metal and just over lay the tacks to achieve the overlapped small dime effect look. It's hard but it can done if you know what your doing. The welder who did the bottom bar didn't care or didn't practice first. They could be polished around the edges to make them look better though. Some small hand files would do the trick.

xtremevert · 2009-11-10 10:12am

benjimanactivate wrote:
xtremevert wrote:
Brian P wrote:
something fishy about the welds on the lower cross bar
The welds on the bottom aren't brazed welds they are mig welds that why they look different.
I agree..MIG welds seem to "pop" up more. I do a lot of MIG welding and that always frustrates me LOL A good TIG weld will be embedded and get good penetration.

Yeah, I hear ya. To get that look you have to give small tacks all the way around with nice high heat without burning through. Once you burn through your pooched.

wildon · 2009-11-10 10:28am

boxline69 wrote:
Decent info here-

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=13507

Yeah i looked at that and the measurements of the woody's (at 28x6x11) are very close to mine ... that close they could be the same measured from different places on each bar. Could do with someone to measure theirs from the same places i mentioned at the top.
If they do turn out to be Woody's I will defo take off the bottom bar as I have been after a set for a while.. had the fork pegs taken off my trickstar forks BITD and you couldnt tell they were ever there, so they should be good as new.