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Redline experts!!!!!! Early 80's Proline/Carerra question 
#1 2009-11-04 1:40pm
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Redline experts!!!!!! Early 80's Proline/Carerra question
First, what are the differences between the two, if any? I just I.D.'d a frame at my LBS as a Proline. This frame has no cross brace between the chain stays. Does that mean anything? Any help appreciated.
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#2 2009-11-04 1:50pm
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no cross brace between the chain stays its A early one...78-81...
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#3 2009-11-04 2:40pm
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... and 82'.
swbruni wrote:
no cross brace between the chain stays its A early one...78-81...
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#4 2009-11-04 3:09pm
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BMXfetish wrote:
... and 82'.
swbruni wrote:
no cross brace between the chain stays its A early one...78-81...
early '82 had the cross brace, but i believe it will need to be the Japanese made frame to have it that early.
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#5 2009-11-04 3:22pm
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Thank you for the info.
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#6 2009-11-04 3:43pm
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These are both 82's.... no B.B./chainstay brace. RB ##### serial numbers.
This is a MX-III, so I guess it doesn't count.
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#7 2009-11-04 5:55pm
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those pesky redline people never made it easy for us 
bmxfetish, i tossed you a pm mate.
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#9 2009-11-04 6:25pm
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bmxfetish has posted up an '82 without a bb brace but i have seen '82's with it. i would suggest a change may have been made to the Japanese built frames somewhere in the mid 1982 year to include this brace. the US built frames got the brace either late '82 or early '83.
i'm still working on evidence to see if ALL 1981/'82 Japanese made proline-II frames had the brazed rear drops. at the moment i believe the early ones did.
please note we are talking about the proline-II (carrera PL-20) frames here. the original poster hasn't given us a pic or serial to see if the frame he has seen is a proline or proline-II.
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#10 2009-11-04 10:21pm
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Re: Redline experts!!!!!! Early 80's Proline/Carerra question
Serial is 360575. The frame the larger sized gusset, and the "sculpted"(for lack of a better word) 5" head tube. He doesn't have a fork with it either. I will try to stop in and get pictures, and check to see if it has brazed drop outs too.
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#11 2009-11-04 10:44pm
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the large gusset is proline-II.
that serial will put it in 1981 
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#12 2009-11-04 10:47pm
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What it the differences between the two models?
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#13 2009-11-04 11:21pm
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1979 Diamondback wrote:
What it the differences between the two models?
which 2 models?
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#14 2009-11-04 11:30pm
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Re: Redline experts!!!!!! Early 80's Proline/Carerra question
I meant the Proline and Proline II.
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#15 2009-11-05 1:01pm
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the 2 easiest differences to see are the head tube gusset and the rear dropouts. there are other differences, maily geometry, but these are the quickest and easiest things to look for straight up.
the proline has a small gusset and rear drops that are the same as the mx-II like this
proline
the proline-II has a large gusset and it's own rear drops like this
proline-II
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#16 2009-11-05 1:07pm
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not being able to edit sucks cox 
try again, dammit
proline rear drop
1978 proline
proline-II rear drop
1982 proline-II
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#17 2009-11-05 1:16pm
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proline (carrera II) rear drop outs. 1984 model
proline (carrera II) wheel stay brace. 1984 model
proline (carrera II) seat stay brace. (from underside). 1984 model
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