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#1 2009-06-14 10:24am

moose1
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DAD'S PIT BOX

I think we need a new forum called "Dad's Pit Box". There's got 2b alot of old schoolers out there like me, spend'n alot of time and $ at the tracks w/our kids! I'am have'n ablast but I can't find a forum where we can share info-you know...what works,what dosen't,what you like/dislike,pics of your pride and joy(and maybe your kid 2 LOL). I think a forum where you don't have to sort through everything else would be KOOL. Does anyone feel the same?


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#2 2009-06-14 10:58pm

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I hear you... but, this forum is fairly quiet.. so we could just all come in here??????

So I can start... Got my new race bike done, it rocks. And my son got 2nd today in class (7 inter) at our local track.


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#3 2009-06-15 4:26pm

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KOOL-Looks like are boys r the same age. Mine is in 7 rookie and 8 and under cruiser. I need 2 build him a new bike. The mini is gettin pretty SMALL,even with a long stem. So many frames 2 choose from. ANY ideas?


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#4 2009-06-15 8:57pm

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Lots of great frames out there... I have 2 kids that race... 7 boy, and 7 girl. They are on their second bikes.. both Intense Podium Jr. XL's. My opinion has always been to find a frame thats close or a touch big, and roll with it. I really wish I would have waited and got some of Gregs GHP frames, they are sweet. In my area, supercross, Intense and Redline seem to be the favorites. My boy has been buggin' me to death about clips... he wants them so bad. I am not sure when a good time is to go for it...


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#5 2009-06-15 9:21pm

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Re: DAD'S PIT BOX

I rode as a kid, but never raced.  I've been looking for a site to learn about racing and share also.  My son just turned 5 last week and I feel like I'm playing catch up learning all this stuff.  We started riding trails, but he asked about BMX so here we are.  What a blast.  Just finished my first BMX bike build for me.  Son has a few bikes.  Here he is on his new b-day present last week while racing Metroplex.  I would like to see more dads get this forum rolling.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/firephysic/IMG_0814.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/firephysic/IMG_0822.jpg

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#6 2009-06-16 9:49am

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I clipped my boy at the end of last season(he had raced for 1 1/2yrs). Once he had them dialed-LOOK OUT! He will be turning novice soon. I just made sure he had NO PROBLEM b4 we went to the track. You will have a ocasional gate prob the first few times but we like the clips.(just my opinion)
As far as frames go I want to build the BEST bike I can. I'am going to build a expert with 19 to 20" top tube. I like crupi but do not know anyone that has raced them. I also like GHP-INTENSE-FORMULA-and HYPER. Othere than the top tube and 1' head tube I really want a SHORT chainstay.(I think i like GHP & INTENSE for that old school Toby & Greg). Still need input before I buy.


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#7 2009-06-16 12:32pm

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Re: DAD'S PIT BOX

click on the "6" next to bikes close to my name... check out my GHP, and both my kids Intense bikes.


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#8 2009-06-16 3:39pm

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Your GHP is awsome! How does your son like his intense. I think thats where I'am go'n, but a buddy of mine wants me to use his jr roadkill frame 4the rest of the season-may buy me time to OVER think this build!!!!!!!LOL


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#9 2009-06-16 5:21pm

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Both of them love those Intense bikes. My girl started with a Redline Jr., and my boy the GT in my bikes section. I built the Intense bikes, and chose good parts... not the best of the best, just good parts. Both kids improved immedietly on them, and I havent changed much since they were built.  This is the 2nd full season for each bike, and I think you should build a quality bike, then leave it alone. Some parents change parts all season long.... my kids know their bikes inside and out, and that means the only major improvement they can do is in their riding. And it seems to be working. Confidence is the biggest hurdle for kids racing, and knowing their bike, and how it rides is a comfort, and an advantage I think.


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#10 2009-06-16 5:36pm

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Ya thats now we've been do'n it-not changing to much. Right now he's riding a redline mini with ahost of good parts that he has been winnig on! But as I stated b4 its get'n small. I will only borrow the RL carbon forks and the FLY DY bars on the next one. Thanks 4your input.Later

PS did I mention how KOOL your GHP is?!


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#11 2009-06-16 10:42pm

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Thanks!! (GHP) I love it man, it is sooo schweeet. Kids had gate practice today, so I got to tear up the track myself.


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#12 2009-06-17 9:40am

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Lets see.....

I'm (40I) on GHP, my oldest daughter (11G) is on a Supercross, my middle daughter (10N) is on GHP, and my youngest daughter (5N) is on a Powerlite.

GHP is my frame sponsor, but even if they weren't, I couldn't say enough about these frames. To notch, best riding bike I've ever ridden.

On the clip issue, I made Charli wait until she turned girl before I clipped her in. I wanted her to learn basic racing skills in the Novice class (I'm talking ABA here) before moving up. I actually clipped her in on the day of her 8th win to move up. It was Friday night at the Silver Dollar Nationals. She hasn't made a main in Girl class yet, but she will. Our racing has been very limited since losing my job back in March so she hasn't had a lot of track time. My middle daughter has been bugging me about clipping in, but she is still a 0 win Novice and has a long way to go. Clips are such a big advantage that with them, I've seen kids blow through the Novice class only to get killed in Intermediate because they were depending on the clips and not their skills for wins.

This forum is pretty quiet, but there are a few of us still racing around here.


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#13 2009-06-17 9:49am

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Re: DAD'S PIT BOX

80sOregonRacer wrote:

Both of them love those Intense bikes. My girl started with a Redline Jr., and my boy the GT in my bikes section. I built the Intense bikes, and chose good parts... not the best of the best, just good parts. Both kids improved immedietly on them, and I havent changed much since they were built.  This is the 2nd full season for each bike, and I think you should build a quality bike, then leave it alone. Some parents change parts all season long.... my kids know their bikes inside and out, and that means the only major improvement they can do is in their riding. And it seems to be working. Confidence is the biggest hurdle for kids racing, and knowing their bike, and how it rides is a comfort, and an advantage I think.

Hey there, my buddy has an Intense like yours (frame only) for his kid. What kind of headset are you using?

Is it a 1" steerer tube? Internal headset? I couldn't find a 1" internal headset when I looked.

thanks!


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#14 2009-06-17 6:53pm

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Re: DAD'S PIT BOX

muphasta wrote:

80sOregonRacer wrote:

Both of them love those Intense bikes. My girl started with a Redline Jr., and my boy the GT in my bikes section. I built the Intense bikes, and chose good parts... not the best of the best, just good parts. Both kids improved immedietly on them, and I havent changed much since they were built.  This is the 2nd full season for each bike, and I think you should build a quality bike, then leave it alone. Some parents change parts all season long.... my kids know their bikes inside and out, and that means the only major improvement they can do is in their riding. And it seems to be working. Confidence is the biggest hurdle for kids racing, and knowing their bike, and how it rides is a comfort, and an advantage I think.

Hey there, my buddy has an Intense like yours (frame only) for his kid. What kind of headset are you using?

Is it a 1" steerer tube? Internal headset? I couldn't find a 1" internal headset when I looked.

thanks!

Yes it is 1", and I used a Sinz headset. They make the integrated 1" set that you need.... FSA I heard also makes a 1", but havent seen it.


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#15 2009-06-17 6:58pm

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Thanks for the info, I'll pass it on to my bud!


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#16 2009-06-17 7:08pm

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http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/tommydone/my%20bike/DSC_0664_342.jpg
my son loves his HYPER as do I.I started racing in 1984 stopped around 91 and came back last year with my (now) 8 year old and having just as much fun.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/tommydone/my%20bike/DSC_0840_499.jpghere is mine
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http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/tommydone/keystone%20national/pottstown.jpgthis is us at the keystone nationals in pottstown

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#17 2009-06-17 7:11pm

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Check out their website.WWW.Hyperbicycles.com I can get you a good deal.

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#18 2009-06-17 7:54pm

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Re: DAD'S PIT BOX

moose1 wrote:

Ya thats now we've been do'n it-not changing to much. Right now he's riding a redline mini with ahost of good parts that he has been winnig on! But as I stated b4 its get'n small. I will only borrow the RL carbon forks and the FLY DY bars on the next one. Thanks 4your input.Later

PS did I mention how KOOL your GHP is?!

Hey how are you and the other guys/parents doing?

I have my kid who is also very interested in racing(he is 8) and has been to a few track practices here in VA.
We have a mini redline-signature series that he plans on racing on the track, but could use a few upgrades.

I have an older Mongoose-motivator mini he uses for practice cause it's heavier.
I think and it looks to me like it helps him going from the heavier 1 to the lighter 1 on practice days and around the block.

Question?
My kid is scared of the gate!
He likes to do "roll thru's", Any help?


I'm looking for the following frames, frame & forks or completes by BMX products:
MotoTrac (nickle or chrome), Racer-X or a Super-X (with the double gussets).
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#19 2009-06-17 8:01pm

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http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/SETH77777/seth146.jpg  I love spending time at the track with my son..


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#20 2009-06-17 8:02pm

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let him roll the gate,in time he will move along at his own pace.when my son started he would roll the gate and would not pedal until he was at the bottom of the starting hill.Not only that but he would sit down the whole race.his first race was last october.Now he is balancing on the gate and standing up through the whole race.He will make friends at the track and those new friends will help him overcome his fears.letting him move along at his own pace will keep it fun for him.If he complains about not winning just tell him he will need to pedal to win.I dont put any pressure on my boy.I cheer him on and I scream and yell during the race but thats it.He is now hooked on BMX.Good luck

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#21 2009-06-17 8:21pm

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Re: DAD'S PIT BOX

tommydone wrote:

let him roll the gate,in time he will move along at his own pace.when my son started he would roll the gate and would not pedal until he was at the bottom of the starting hill.Not only that but he would sit down the whole race.his first race was last october.Now he is balancing on the gate and standing up through the whole race.He will make friends at the track and those new friends will help him overcome his fears.letting him move along at his own pace will keep it fun for him.If he complains about not winning just tell him he will need to pedal to win.I dont put any pressure on my boy.I cheer him on and I scream and yell during the race but thats it.He is now hooked on BMX.Good luck

Thanks for the info.


I'm looking for the following frames, frame & forks or completes by BMX products:
MotoTrac (nickle or chrome), Racer-X or a Super-X (with the double gussets).
Thanks wink
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#22 2009-06-17 9:56pm

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I agree.  My 4yo like to roll also.  He would gate maybe 6 times a night at first.  Now after racing and making friends within a few weeks he asking to gate everytime.  He will still roll some, now he is very interested in getting the gate.  i still have to hold his back wheel, though.  Sorry, he just turned 5yo last week. 

I rode the track tonight for the first time ever.  Rode my old Robinson.  Wow, it was a blast. The kid next to me at the first gate says "You still remember how to ride that thing?" Showed him.   Our local track is very technical.  Desoto, TX @ Metroplex BMX.  I work the gate every so often also.  Great people.  Never raced as a kid.  I plan to ride with my son some more at practice night.  Still not sure about racing.  Cant afford to get hurt at my age.  Gotta work.

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#23 2009-06-18 6:24am

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wycough wrote:

I agree.  My 4yo like to roll also.  He would gate maybe 6 times a night at first.  Now after racing and making friends within a few weeks he asking to gate everytime.  He will still roll some, now he is very interested in getting the gate.  i still have to hold his back wheel, though.  Sorry, he just turned 5yo last week. 

I rode the track tonight for the first time ever.  Rode my old Robinson.  Wow, it was a blast. The kid next to me at the first gate says "You still remember how to ride that thing?" Showed him.   Our local track is very technical.  Desoto, TX @ Metroplex BMX.  I work the gate every so often also.  Great people.  Never raced as a kid.  I plan to ride with my son some more at practice night.  Still not sure about racing.  Cant afford to get hurt at my age.  Gotta work.

At our age, or should I say stage in life, I think being there encouraging our kids and cheering for them and possibly working the track is far more important than racing. I want to race at least once just to say I did it. I never raced BMX before either. But showing my 5yo son that it can be done, and it can be fun even if you don't win is important.

He hasn't been to the track in a while, so we need to get him out there!
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#24 2009-06-18 9:40am

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Re: DAD'S PIT BOX

Like I said b4 - I'am having a blast w/my son @ the track(s). I'am now on the board @ the track I helped build when I was kid racing BITD. I get my fix w/my old school builds but I  to think its WAY more important 2b there for my son than for me 2b racing again. I've built a full auto practice gate 4him and a load of dirt should be delivered today for a dirt jump section.ENVOVLED is the way 2B!!!!!!!!


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#25 2009-06-18 9:48am

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Re: DAD'S PIT BOX

Lets do a fantasy buid-no $ probs-just what you think would be the best mini/jr/expert build.
I'll start
        FRAME- Intense podium/crupi/hyper
        WHEELS-answer ti or kovochi
        CRANKS-profile mini w/ti spindle
        BARS-   answer carbon
        BRAKES-ldc
        STEM-   ldc
        TIRES- micro knob or pwr block
        FORKS-redline carbon
        SEAT-  uni


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