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#1 2009-03-18 8:36am

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1988 S&M Mad Dog

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1988 S&M Mad Dog

Very, very early S&M.  No serial number.

I'm posting this photo as a "before" picture.  Hopefully, in the not-too-distant future, I'll be posting a really good-lookin' "after" picture, with a fully restored Mad Dog.
This "before" bike has all the parts that were left on it when I stopped riding it in 1993 and left it to hang in my parents' garage since.  I bought the frame & fork in June 1988, raced it a few times, got sick of racing, then just beat the crap outta this bike in the dirt for the next 5 years.
GT (Huntington Beach) handlebars, Fusion stem, Araya 7X rims, GT hubs, Tioga Comp III tires, GT (Santa Ana) seat post, Kashimax Aero seat, Odyssey seat clamp, Odyssey Pitbull brakes, ODI Tec-7 grips, Redline 180mm cranks, Redline 44t sprocket, Redline sealed bottom bracket, Izumi chain, Flite pad set, rust.
Added the photo of the brake bridge after learning that this is a good way to gauge its age (along with the fact that it has no serial number).  This style of brake bridge was used only in the very beginning of S&M's history.


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#2 2009-03-18 8:44am

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

Wow,
Looks amazing to me the way it is..
just polish it up a bit.
It will only be a survivor once..
great bike! thanks for submitting it


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#3 2009-03-18 12:22pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

Anyone here know more about the early days of S&M bike making?  Like it says in the description, this old Dog was made before Scott & Moeller were putting serial numbers on the frames.

I'm just curious about the details of their early days just starting out.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks!

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#4 2009-03-18 12:27pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

Please don't restore it. Leave it the way it is, it's perfect. I have been searching for a Mad dog f/f for a long time. Once again please don't restore it.
Here's some S&M info for yeah   http://www.23mag.com/com/sm/sm.htm


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#5 2009-03-18 12:29pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

Hells Yea KP! I am so making you ride with me this summer.
All's I know for sure about the manufacturing was that they were being built by Cook Bro's and cost like $189 for the frame and fork. That was more hen most at the time. Funny that my LAF frame only retailed for about $350, frame only...

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#6 2009-03-19 8:24am

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

nice bike, if that was my old bike, i'd clean it up, but no major changes. thats your own personal history right there.

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#7 2009-03-21 9:05am

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

trk2ajk wrote:

nice bike, if that was my old bike, i'd clean it up, but no major changes. thats your own personal history right there.

Good point.  "Fully restored" doesn't seem like a such a great idea any more.  I just gotta get it riding smoothly again.

Also:

I added a photo of the brake bridge after learning that this is a good way to gauge its age (along with the fact that it has no serial number).  This style of brake bridge was used only in the very beginning of S&M's history.

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#8 2009-04-10 5:40pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

YES! another mad dog. That's a sweet ride. Personally I would leave it. Survivor maddog beats any fancy polished up maddog! Make up is for girls!


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#9 2009-04-10 5:48pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

That's too cool.  I had an 88 Mad Dog BITD, but it must have been a later B&E made one, as it didn't have the Cook Bros. type brake bridge.  I'd say restore it if it hadn't been yours since day one.  You probably have a story about every scar on that frame (like, "I remember when I screwed up that Dyno sticker when I 360'd into a tree...).  Leave it alone.


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#10 2009-04-12 9:49pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

That is so cool to see a Mad Dog with the original set up!  I agree with these guys about not restoring it, except to clean it up well enough to prevent any more rusting.  Whatever you do, be sure to leave all the decals just the way they are, even if they're damaged. Your bike is the coolest survivor I've ever seen.  Thanks for posting it!!! big_smile


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#11 2009-04-13 9:03am

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

agreed! clean it up and replace only what needs replacing. dont even think about removing the original decals. mad dog frames are pretty scarce. nice to see another one turn up, especially with the decals still on.


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#12 2009-06-01 12:54pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

Like everyone else has said, fantastic bike!

Like Matt Said, replace what needs replacing and leave it as that.

Then again, to clean it up and get it back to the condition it was when you got it 21 years ago could be cool as well. I just replaced my '89 Dirtbike stickers with new ones and didn't think twice about it(the new ones are identical to the originals).

Good luck with it!

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#13 2009-07-31 9:24am

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

it's all about the stickers still on it to me, but shame the chrome really needs to be redone...i would feel so torn about what to do if i owned it...i'd prolly make sure i scored an original complete decal set and then rechrome the frame ...but keep the parts exact...if replace anything then replace with the exact same part....like maybe score same stuff on the bay...like that...
i think most important thing is to keep it set up the way u had it BITD.


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#14 2009-08-27 2:47pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

Way cool looken makes me wish I still hade mine!sad  thanks for posting it up.


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#15 2009-08-27 4:02pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

sandmslayer wrote:

it's all about the stickers still on it to me, but shame the chrome really needs to be redone...i would feel so torn about what to do if i owned it...i'd prolly make sure i scored an original complete decal set and then rechrome the frame ...but keep the parts exact...if replace anything then replace with the exact same part....like maybe score same stuff on the bay...like that...
i think most important thing is to keep it set up the way u had it BITD.

It's black paint, not chrome. big_smile


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#16 2010-02-18 7:45pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

I have personally ridden this bike.  It was indeed very cool.  I have many pictures of it too.  I will get with the owner to see if he wants them on here.  It is just as cool as it always was.  Keep on Truckin

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#17 2010-02-18 7:50pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

damnn   nice bike     clean it up bro    dont change to much it has charecter


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#18 2011-05-03 8:04am

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

Bike looks great like it is. If you every do restore it I think I have a few sets of orig. decals. The very first frames that Scott and Chris made were called the K-9 D-Zine but that was changed to the Mad Dog when they figured that no one knew what K-9 D-Zine meant.

I was pretty good friends with both Chris and Scott and stayed at the old Dog House a number of times. I have one of the very first K-9 frames built up just as I raced it. Only raced a few times on it as it was WAY too short for my liking, still have the complete S&M uniform as well. The first jerseys were S&M and South Coast Cycles.

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#19 2011-05-03 11:38am

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

PerryNelson wrote:

Bike looks great like it is. If you every do restore it I think I have a few sets of orig. decals. The very first frames that Scott and Chris made were called the K-9 D-Zine but that was changed to the Mad Dog when they figured that no one knew what K-9 D-Zine meant.

I was pretty good friends with both Chris and Scott and stayed at the old Dog House a number of times. I have one of the very first K-9 frames built up just as I raced it. Only raced a few times on it as it was WAY too short for my liking, still have the complete S&M uniform as well. The first jerseys were S&M and South Coast Cycles.

Perry

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#20 2011-05-03 12:09pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

So cool.  Save that baby, don't let it rot.  Clean it up, re-grease everything and neutralize the rust.  I agree, restoring that one would kill the character.  Get everything that you need to restore it now though, and hold onto it.


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#21 2011-05-03 4:22pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

adamdawson wrote:

PerryNelson wrote:

Bike looks great like it is. If you every do restore it I think I have a few sets of orig. decals. The very first frames that Scott and Chris made were called the K-9 D-Zine but that was changed to the Mad Dog when they figured that no one knew what K-9 D-Zine meant.

I was pretty good friends with both Chris and Scott and stayed at the old Dog House a number of times. I have one of the very first K-9 frames built up just as I raced it. Only raced a few times on it as it was WAY too short for my liking, still have the complete S&M uniform as well. The first jerseys were S&M and South Coast Cycles.

Perry

IF you have a k-9, PLEASE post it up!!

PRETTY PLEASE!


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#22 2011-06-07 5:53am

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

SOMETHINGS ARE BETTER UNTOUCHED THIS IS ONE OF THEM AWESOME BIKE MAN


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#23 2011-07-02 1:02pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

Madd Dawg man that is cool. you lucky guy


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#24 2011-08-14 4:15pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

killer bike big_smile

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#25 2012-01-12 2:35pm

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Re: 1988 S&M Mad Dog

So this post is now nearly 3 years old - what did you decide to do and are there any new pics?


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