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#1 2008-12-24 10:44am

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- OFFICIAL: 1986 GT Performer Thread -

There's some great info in here.  Let's try to keep the BS to a minimum. skinnygmg

okay, we all know '86 was a funky ass year for GT...framesets being made all over the place (japan, taiwan, USA)

its time to get to the bottom of all this, haha, some have 3 holes on the rear dropout, some have 4

it is my theory all the 3 hole '86 GT's were made in japan and have a G5 serial #

so...if you have an '86 Perfomer - Pro Performer - World Tour - Pro Freestyle Tour....post up the info!

i think this could be a great reference for a year that was so confusing cool

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something like this (here is the info for a couple of mine so far)

Green Pro Performer (original paint/stickers)
Serial: G5J05495
4130 Stamp: YES
Holes on dropout: 3

White Performer (original paint/stickers)
Serial: DS60926466
4130 Stamp: NO
Holes on dropout: 4
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3060/86performernv2.jpg
Blue Performer (original paint/stickers)
Serial: DS60981689
4130 Stamp: NO
Holes on dropout: 4

Unknown Original Paint/Stickers
Serial: 2861177
4130 Stamp: YES
Holes on dropout: 4

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#2 2008-12-24 10:54am

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Lavender Performer (original paint/stickers)
Serial: DS61052518
4130 Stamp: NO
Holes on dropout: 4



http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo223/nsrrider1/P1160104.jpg

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#3 2008-12-24 11:06am

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Re: - OFFICIAL: 1986 GT Performer Thread -

Taiwan '85 GT Performers that had 3 holes in rear drop outs had the serial G5...stamped under the BB too.

86 ones that had 4 hole rear drop outs also had the serial under the BB and all of the ones i had started DS....

I know the deal with US 84 pre stamped, US 84 stamped, US 85 stamped and Taiwan stamped 85's if anyone wants to know.smile

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#4 2008-12-24 11:14am

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munners wrote:

Taiwan '85 GT Performers that had 3 holes in rear drop outs had the serial G5...stamped under the BB too.

86 ones that had 4 hole rear drop outs also had the serial under the BB and all of the ones i had started DS....

I know the deal with US 84 pre stamped, US 84 stamped, US 85 stamped and Taiwan stamped 85's if anyone wants to know.smile

taiwan's didnt start until '86 and had the DS6 serial numbers...some '85s were made in Japan and yes do also have the 3 holes and would also sport the G5, but some '86s have the G5 serial as well and this is for discussion of '86 only


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#5 2008-12-24 11:15am

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Serial on BB,G5LXXXX.4130,yes,3 holes on dropout.cool


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#6 2008-12-24 11:20am

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Blue Performer (was original paint/stickers)
Serial: F6048895 on BB
4130 Stamp: YES
Holes on dropout: 4
Forks: 2 cable guides

This one got new blue powder and World Tour decals before I realized maybe it shouldn't have.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/macaltec/Bikes/100_7131.jpg

Purple World Tour (original paint/stickers)
Serial: G5K04335 on BB
4130 Stamp: YES
Holes on dropout: 3 holes
Forks: 1 cable guide

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/macaltec/Bikes/100_7143.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/macaltec/Bikes/100_7145.jpg

The 3 hole dropout has the notch cutout of them between the stays where as the 4 hole does not.

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#7 2008-12-24 12:01pm

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I just noticed this difference as well.

F6.......
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/macaltec/Bikes/100_7129.jpg

G5
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/macaltec/Bikes/100_7128.jpg


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#8 2008-12-24 12:15pm

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Here are a couple of shots of the head tube angle.  When I first brought the World Tour home I thought the fork was bent.  It really sticks out sitting next to the other 86. 
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/barnett1975/purple.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/barnett1975/DSCI0018.jpg

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#9 2008-12-24 12:31pm

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Green Pro Performer (Repainted/stickered)
Serial: F6048902
4130 Stamp: YES
Holes on dropout: 4

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/rrice05/BMX/100_1487.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/rrice05/BMX/100_1473.jpg


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#10 2008-12-24 12:33pm

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Lavender Performer (original paint/new FS decal)
Serial #: 1087343 (weird stamp. missing 6 after 8) on dropout with FS stamp
4130: yes
Holes: 4
Fork: 1 cable guide
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b202/acuzerfdw/1986%20Freestyle%20Tour/DSCF0212.jpg


Blue World Tour (original paint/decals)
Serial #: G5J05390 on BB
4130: yes
Holes: 3
Fork: 1 cable guide
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b202/acuzerfdw/1986%20Pro%20World%20Tour%20-%20Blue/IMG_1684.jpg


Unknown (stripped frame)
Serial #: F6047466 on BB
4130: yes
Holes: 4
Fork: 2 cable guides
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b202/acuzerfdw/1986%20World%20Tour%20-%20White/DSCF0236.jpg

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#11 2008-12-24 12:40pm

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Dyno-Mike wrote:

great photos! do you have the serials for the WT and PFT?

Here you go!
World Tour G5L00522
Pro Freestyle Tour G6F1283
They are both survivors and have 3 hole drop outs
Each one has 4130 stamp

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#12 2008-12-24 12:47pm

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Going by Phil's serial numbers, it's safe to say that GT switched from World Tour to Freestyle Tour as early as June of '86. Could have been sooner, but we'll see as more info comes in.

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#13 2008-12-24 1:07pm

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Here are 2 more.  The blue one I bought already refinished and I applied the decals.  The pink one may be a 1985, see what you guys think.  It is U.S. made serial # is on the drop out and it's definitely all 4130.  Both of these have 4 hole drop outs. Both are stamped 4130
Pink 12851821 FS stamp under #
Blue F6058538
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/barnett1975/blueandpurp.jpg

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#14 2008-12-24 1:10pm

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That pink one was made in December of '85, making it an '86 model when it was made. Nice collection, Phil!


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#15 2008-12-24 5:24pm

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Wow!  That better be a really good story lol.  Alright, I think these are the last ones I have.  The yellow one seems like an 87 serial# but, it doesn't have a lower brake bridge.  Any thoughts?  Bare frame set is not stamped 4130.  I can't tell on the yellow one because the paint is way too thick.  I'll blast it next week.
Yellow DS70570642
Bare DS61052092
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/barnett1975/yellow.jpg

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#16 2008-12-24 11:26pm

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LOL. Holy sh1t! whew.

Anyway. I said it before, the holes don't mean jack.
http://bmxmuseum.com/image/sany0033_copy0_lg.jpg
SERIAL # G6G1279
Originally a PFT.

Good thread Mike. I hope I learn something.

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#17 2008-12-25 6:09pm

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hey psycho...ive never seen a G6 serial...usually its an F6, that is a new one on me, ive already learned something


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#18 2008-12-25 6:31pm

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Phil Wood's '86 PFT is a G6 serial as well. I wonder if these were left over frames (because of the 3 holes on dropout) that were used to make the Freestyle Tours once they had to start changing the name of the model. Those were made in Japan, where the World Tours were being made. Duddy's and Phil's bikes are a month apart.

Maybe we should also take note of the 3-hole dropouts and where they were made. For example, do all 3-hole dropouts have the G in the serial number and made in Japan, while 3-hole and serial on dropout were made in U.S? Do the DS6------- and F6------ serials all have 4 holes and made in Taiwan or elsewhere? Very interesting.

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#19 2008-12-25 6:57pm

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i not a gt fan but what year is this 4 hole with fs
<a href="http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/EKI03/?action=view&current=Picture034.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/EKI03/Picture034.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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#20 2008-12-25 7:21pm

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DR RAD wrote:

i not a gt fan but what year is this 4 hole with fs
<a href="http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/EKI03/?action=view&current=Picture034.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/EKI03/Picture034.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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Let me help you out here a bit:

http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/EKI03/Picture034.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/EKI03/Picture034.jpg
http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/EKI03/Picture033.jpg

Your frame was made in December of '85 as an '86 model GT. not sure as to what model it was or if it was even sold as a complete bike or just a frame set.


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#21 2008-12-25 8:53pm

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also my questions about 86 performers  between the year  did they have a different head tube angle   or did they stay the same degree


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#22 2008-12-25 10:36pm

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I want to say that the ones you'll see a difference in the headtube angle would be between those frames that were actually made in '85 and those that were made in '86. There are '86 model Performers that were made in '85 therefore had the angle like the '85 models. Did I even make sense here?


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#23 2008-12-26 2:17am

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Cool thread, me likey 86 Performers. cool

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#24 2008-12-26 5:33am

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Dyno-Mike wrote:

munners wrote:

Taiwan '85 GT Performers that had 3 holes in rear drop outs had the serial G5...stamped under the BB too.

86 ones that had 4 hole rear drop outs also had the serial under the BB and all of the ones i had started DS....

I know the deal with US 84 pre stamped, US 84 stamped, US 85 stamped and Taiwan stamped 85's if anyone wants to know.smile

taiwan's didnt start until '86 and had the DS6 serial numbers...some '85s were made in Japan and yes do also have the 3 holes and would also sport the G5, but some '86s have the G5 serial as well and this is for discussion of '86 only

Sorry i did mean Japan not Taiwan. Your correct. smile

Just to make it a bit more interesting.... The ones you see with 4 holes in rear drops and the FS and serial number stamped in drop out were 'apparently' 84 framesets that were left over by the US fabricators and then re-issued in 86 with the insertion of the extra hole to make them look ike 86 framesets.

Not sure how true this is.hmm but it would make sense.
A member of a UK site had one of these and we didnt understand why he would have an 84 frameset with 4 holes in. When he showed us the pics of the bike before the resto it was a clearly a 86 spec bike.

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#25 2008-12-26 6:42am

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jayoldmanbmx wrote:

also my questions about 86 performers  between the year  did they have a different head tube angle   or did they stay the same degree

My 86 World Tour has the very steep head tube angle while my 86 PFT does not.  I posted pics earlier in the thread.  I will try to take better pics later.  I am curious what determined the head tube angle too.

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