was going to get these built.. just have WAY to many wheelsets being built or about to to need these anymore.. they are in awesome condition.. blackannod. 36 hole hubs.. they are loose ball and not sure of the brand.. was told SUN but have been told otherwise as well.. so who knows .. but they are damn nicely made and not some cheap chit !.. but spin and are silent as hell like sealed bearing hubs work..they come with the long flange axle nuts and the free wheel threads are about perfect.. any questions please ask.. offers pm me and let me know.. thanks for looking.. remember this is OBO !!!